PCM19680116a CITY PLAiZT COMMISSION CITY OF MUSKEG0
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD JANUARY 16, 1968 CITY HALL
MAYOR GOTTFRIED CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 8:05 P. M.
PRESENT - MAYOR JEROME GOTTFRIED, CHAIRMAN, IILLIAM F. CHASE,
SEC'Y, WILLARD BERTRAM, PAUL DEANGELIS, ALDERMAN S. ROBERT LENTINI AND ED RAIMANN. BUILDING INSPECTOR GERALD LEE AND PLAN CONSULTANT RUSSELL KNETZGER WERE ALSO PRESENT.
ABSENT - CHARLES BUEHLER
MINUTES - THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING, JANUARY 2,
1960, WERE CORRECTED ON PAGE 3 UNDER THAT SECTION ENTITLED LIONS CLUB PARK, PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD FEBRUARY 6TH,
1968, RATHER THAN FEBRUARY 2ND AS SHOWN. THE MINUTES WERE
APPROVED AS CORRECTED.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES
e JOHN LLOYD - MR. JOHN LLOYD, S75 /I4530 EASY ST., APPEARED
AND SUBMITTED A SITE AND OPERATIONAL PLAN FOR LLOYD'S CAMPING TRAILERS, INC., PROPOSED FOR THE LINDNER-HARRIS BUILDING, S75 VI7461 JANESVILLE RD., WHICH FORMERLY HOUSED JEROME DRUGS. MR. LLOYD ADVISED THAT THIS BUSINESS WILL CONSIST OF
RETAIL SALES OF CAMPING TRAILERS, CAMPING EQUIPMENT AND
SPORTING GJOODS, AS WELL AS INCLUDE THE SEASONAL RENTAL OF
CAMPING TRAILERS AND EQUIPMENT. HE FURTHER ADVISED THAT AN
8' WIDE X 7' HIGH OVERHEAD DOOR WILL BE INSTALLED IN THE
REAR OF THE BUILDING TO FACILITATE MOVING THE CAMPERS INTO
THE BUILDING FOR DISPLAY PURPOSES. IN ANSWER TO QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMISSION, MR. LLOYD ADVISED THAT RENTALS INVOLVED
25% OR LESS OF THE TOTAL BUSINESS, THAT HE HAD NO SPECIFIC
PLANS FOR SIGNS AT THE PRESENT TIME, HOWEVER, TENTATIVE PLANS
WERE FOR AN INSIDE WINDOW SIGN, THAT IT IS NOT HIS INTENTION
TO SELL BAIT, BOATS OR GARDEN EQUIPMENT, BUT THAT POSSIBLY
HE MAY SELL SNOWMOBILES, BUT THAT HE WOULD NOT OFFER A REPAIR
SERVICE FOR SAME, THAT PROTECTIVE COVERINGS FOR THE TRAILERS
SUCH AS AWNINGS, ETC., WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY. HE INDICATED
THAT IT IS HIS INTENTION TO DISPLAY ONE CAMPER IN THE FRONT
OF THE BUILDING AND TO PARK APPROXIMATELY 9 CAMPERS IN THE
REAR. MR. LLOYD POINTED OUT THAT HIS LEASE PROHIBITED THE a PARKING OF MORE THAN ONE CAMPER IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. MR. CHASE MOVED TO APPROVE THE SITE AND OPERATIONAL PLAN
FOR A RETAIL SPORTING GOODS STORE WHICH INCLUDES PROVISIONS
FOR RENTING CAMPING TRAILERS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE
NUMBER OF TRAILERS BE LIMITED TO 15, ONE OF WHICH MAY BE
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e DISPLAYED IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. ALDERMAN LENTINI
SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
IDLE ISLE - MR. DAVE BEIERLE, AGENT FOR MARY KILLA, WHO
DESIRES TO SELL IDLE ISLE, AND ~YR. DAVE COUTURE, AGENT FOR LESLIE ABEL, WHO DESIRES TO PURCHASE IDLE ISLE, APPEARED TO
LITTLE MUSKEGO LAKE EVEN THOUGH THE COMMISSION HAD RECOMMENDED
REVIEW THEIR PROPOSAL FOR THIS ISLAND AT THE NORTH END OF
DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST TO REZONE FOR THE PURPOSE OF A MOBILE
HOME PARK. MR. BEIERLE REFERRED TO THE FOLLOWING COMMUNICATION
DATED JANUARY 0, 1960, WHICH HAD BEEN DIRECTED TO THE RECORDING SECRETARY:
I1 DEAR MRS. SANDS: I AM WRITING IN REPLY TO YOUR LETTER OF DECEMBER 29,
1967, ADVISING ME THAT IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY
OF MUSKEGO PLAN COMMISSION, THAT MY REQUEST AS AGENT FOR MARY KILLA, TO REZONE IDLE ISLE BEACH (A 7f ACRE ISLAND AT
THE EXTREME NORTH LIMITS OF LITTLE MUSKEGO LAKE) TO RSM AND
AMENDMENT OF MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE TO PERMIT DEVELOPMENT,
OPERATION, AND HABITATION OF A MOBILE HOME PARK ON THIS
PROPERTY BE DENIED.
As YOU WILL RECALL, IN MID-NOVEMBER OF 1967, MR. DAVID COUTURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF AMERICA, APPEARED
(As CO-BROKER IN MY BEHALF AS AGENT FOR MARY KILLA AT THE
REQUEST OF HIS BUYER, MR. LESLIE ABEL) BEFORE THE PLAN COM-
MISSION ON AN INFORMAL BASIS, TO ASK FOR A GENERAL INDICATION
OF THE FEELING OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AS TO WHETHER
WHAT WE AT THAT POINT INTENDED TO FORMALLY PETITION FOR HAD
IN THEIR CONSIDERED OPINION ANY MERIT. MR. COUTURE EXPLAINED
AT THAT TIME THAT WE WERE NOT ASKING FOR A FORMAL RULING,
BUT ONLY AN INFORMAL INDICATION ON THEIR PART AS A BODY,
WHETHER TO, IN FACT, SUBMIT A FORMAL PETITION MOULD BE AT ALL
LOGICAL. MR. COUTURE WAS ADVISED BY THE COMMISSION AT THAT
TIME THAT THEY COULD MAKE NO INDICATION WHATSOEVER OR EVEN
DISCUSS THE MATTER UNTIL THEY WERE IN RECEIPT OF A FORMAL
PETITION. MR. COUTURE ORIGINALLY APPEARED AT MY SUGGESTION ON AN
INFORMAL BASIS, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE AT TIMES IN
OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO REQUEST AN INFORMAL APPEARANCE PRIOR
TO SUBMISSION OF A FORMAL REQUEST, SO THAT IN THE EVENT A
POTENTIAL REQUEST IS ABSOLUTELY A TECHNICAL IMPOSSIBILITY,
MUCH TIME Is SAVED BOTH BY THE COMMISSION AND THE PETITIONER. I SUBSEQUENTLY, IN VIEW OF THE FOREGOING, FORMALLY
PETITIONED THE COMMISSION FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED ZONING
@I CHANGES. WHEN I APPEARED BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 5,
1967, MAYOR GOTTFRIED, THE CHAIRMAN, ADVISED ME THAT IT WOULD
NOT BE NECESSARY TO APPEAR, SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING HAD BEEN
SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 9, 1960, AND THAT THE COMMISSION WAS
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NOT INTERESTED IN A PRESENTATION AT THAT TIME AS IT WOULD MAKE
NO DECISION OR RECOMMENDATION UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. REGARDING THE ABOVE, THE FOLLOWING IS A QUOTE FROM THE MINUTES
OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MEETING OF DECEMBER 5, 1967, - - "IT
WAS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION TO DEFER ACTION ON THIS PETITION
UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY
PLANNER.
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ON DECEMBER 30, 1967, I RECEIVED YOUR LETTER OF DECEMBER
29, 1967, ADVISING ME THAT THEY, IN FACT, DID NOT DEFER ACTION
AND WOULD RECOMMEND DENIAL ON BOTH REQUESTS.
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE COMMISSION BY TAKING THE
ACTION DESCRIBED IN YOUR LETTER, HAS MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATION
TOTALLY WITHOUT AFFORDING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE
PERTINENT FACTS IW THIS REQUEST.
10 DOUBT, THIS WAS DONE UNINTENTIONALLY AND THEY HAVE
OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT WE, UP TO THIS TIME, HAVE MADE NO
PRESENTATION TO THEIR BODY. I THEREFORE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE FOLLOWING:
I. THE COMMISSION WITHHOLD THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMON COUNCIL UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING ON JAN. 9, 1960.
2. OR, SINCE IT IS MY EARNEST BELIEF THAT WE WILL AT LONG
LAST BE PERMITTED TO FULLY PRESENT ALL ASPECTS OF THE ZONING 0 CHANGE REQUEST AT THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE COMMON COUNCIL, I WOULD HOPE THE PLAN COMMISSION WOULD BE PRESENT AS A BODY
TO HEAR OUR PRESENTATION, SO THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER THIS
REQUEST WITH ALL THE INFORMATION. IF THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE,
THEN I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION WITHHOLD THEIR
RECOMMENDATION UNTIL WE ARE PERMITTED TO APPEAR BEFORE THEM
TO PRESENT ALL THE INFORMATION IN THIS REQUEST.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADVISE YOU THAT I SHALL BE MAILING
A COPY OF THIS LETTER TO THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MUSKEGO. I FEEL IT IS IMPERATIVE IN THE EVENT THE PLAN
COMMISSION MAKES THEIR RECOMMENDATION PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC
HEARING, THAT THE COUNCIL BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE
NOT, AS OF THIS DATE, BEEN PERMITTED TO PRESENT ANY INFORMATION
REGARDING THE REQUEST TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.
YOURS VERY TRULY,
/S/ DAVID 8. BEIERLE"
ff~. DON SFZITH, REPRESENTING NATIONAL RESEARCH FOUNDATION
FOR MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURERS, 20 N. WACKER DRIVE, CHICAGO,
MARKETING DATA, AND TO URGE THE COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH
APPEARED TO DISCUSS THE MOBILE HOME, REVIEW THE FACTS AND
PROPER CODES AND REGULATIONS TO INCLUDE MOBILE HOME PARKS IN
SHOWED A FILM OF MOBILE HOME DEVELOPMENTS, REVIEWED STATE
'/e THEIR ORDINANCE UNDER THE MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT. HE ALSO
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CODES CONCERNING THE MOBILE HOME AND REVIEWED NELSON & Assoc.
TAX BASE AND LICENSING FEE FOR MOBILE HOMES, MR. SMITH
REFERRING TO STATE STATUTES 66.050E AND 66.058.
OF DECEMBER I~TH, 1967, RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST
TO REZONE IDLE ISLE FROM RS-3 TO RSM AND TO CHANGE THE TEXT
MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT. M R. RAIMANN SECONDED THE MOTION,
6 RECOMMENDATION OF JAN. 9, 1960. THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF THE
MR. CHASE MOVED TO RECONSIDER THE COMMISSION'S ACTION
OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE MOBILE HOME PARKS IN THE
HOWEVER THE MOTION LOST. A SHORT, INFORMAL DISCUSSION CONCER-
NING MOBILE HOME PARKS FOLLOWED.
OTHER BUSINESS
JACK GLOcKNER ENTERPRISES - As FORMAL ACTION HAD NOT
BEEN TAKEN AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING CONCERNING THIS JUNK
BUSINESS WHICH INCLUDES AUTO REPAIR, MACHINE SHOP AND
EXTRACTIVE OPERATION, h. CHASE MOVED TO NOTIFY MR. GLOCKNER
THAT IF IT IS HIS INTENTION TO CONTINUE HIS EXTRACTIVE
OPERATION DURING THIS COMING SUMMER THAT A SITE AND RES-
TORATION PLAN MUST BESUBMITTED TO THE PLAN COMMISSION BY APRIL IST, 1960. MR. DEANGELIS SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE
IT WAS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION THAT A LETTER BE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
DIRECTED TO MR. GLOCKNER INDICATING HIS AGREEMENT THAT ALL
ELIMINATED BY JUNE 7, 1960.
OF THE JUNKED CARS SOUTH OF HIS PRIVATE ROAD BE REMOVED OR
COMMERCIAL TRUCK PARKING - THE COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE
CRITERIA FOR COMMERCIAL TRUCK PARKING MET AT 7:OO P. M. JUST
PRIOR TO THIS REGULAR PLAN COMMISSION MEETING. MAYOR GOTTFRIED REPORTED THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD CONCURRED
ON THE FOLLOWING POLICIES:
I. THAT THE PETITIONER SUBMIT A SITE PLAN INDICATING
THE AREA IN WHICH THE VEHICLE WILL BE PARKED.
2. IN AGRICULTURE A REAS ONE TRUCK WILL BE PERMITTED
UNLESS FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE TO ENCLOSE ADDITIONAL TRUCKS
OR EQUIPMENT. IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ONLY ONE TRUCK WILL BE
PERMITTED.
3. IN BOTH AGRICULTURE OR PREDOMINATELY UNDEVELOPED
AREAS A STANDARD CLAUSE IS DESIRED WHICH WILL ADVISE THE
INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED THAT SHOULD THE PARKING OF SAID VEHICLE
BECOME, IN THE MINDS OF THE PLAN COMMISSION, A PUBLIC NUISANCE
BECAUSE OF DUST, NOISE, ETC., THE PERMIT CAN BE REVOKED.
4. A PREDOMINATELY UNDEVELOPED AREA WILL BE DEFINED AS
AN AREA IN WHICH THERE ARE NO MORE THAN 3 HOMES WITHIN 1000'
OF EACH OTHER.
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JANUARY 16, 1968
IT WAS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION THAT THESE POLICIES BE
REFERRED TO CITY ATTORNEY HIPPENMEYER FOR A LEGAL OPINION AND
THE COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH THESE POLICIES.
TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY RESOLUTION WHICH CAN BE ADOPTED BY
MAYOR GOTTFRIED ADVISED THAT HE HAD REQUESTED INFORMATION
ON THE RESTRICTIONS OF TRUCK PARKING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND
THEY HAD INDICA TED THAT THEY HAD NO PROVISIONS TO ALLOW
COMMERCIAL TRUCK PARKING IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. MR. CHASE MOVED TO DEFER ACTION ON THE PENDING REQUESTS
OF ERWIN ARNDT, THOMAS DAHLMAN AND STANLEY DOBRYZYNSKI UNTIL
THE NEXT MEETING. MR. RAIMANN SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PREL SUED
VESTVIEW SUBDIVISION - THE COMMISSION REVIEWED A
IMINARY PLAT AND CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP OF LOT 2, WESTVIEW
IVISION, PREPARED JAN. 5, 1968, BY WAUKESHA LAND SURVEYS
FOR BERNARD LINDNER, PROPOSAL BEING TO SPLIT RECORDED LOT 2
THUS CREATING TWO LOTS, EACH 100' x 185'. IT WAS NOTED BY
THE COMMISSION THAT A DRAINAGE EASEMENT BETWEEN THE PROPOSED
NORTH SIDE OF PROPOSED PARCEL 2B.
TWO LOTS IS TO BE VACATED AND THE EASEMENT MOVED TO THE
~UILDING INSPECTOR LEE ADVISED THAT MR. LINDNER WILL
COMMITTEE. IT WAS ALSO NOTED THAT ONE OF THE PARCELS WILL
BE SUBJECT TO AN EASEMENT FOR POSSIBLE SEPTIC FIELD EXTEN-
SION UNTIL THE SANITARY SEWER IS AVAILABLE.
MR. DEANGELIS MOVED TO REFER THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT
AND CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP TO CITY ENGINEER RUEKERT FOR
REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION. ALDERMAN LENTINI SECONDED THE
MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
TANS-JENSEN - THE COMMISSION REVIEWED A CERTIFIED SURVEY
MAP FOR TWO PARCELS OF THE LESTER TANS PROPERTY ALONG TANS DRIVE IN THE NE$ OF SEC. 6, SAME PREPARED BY WAUKESHA LAND SURVEYS, WHICH EMERY W. JENSEN DESIRES TO PURCHASE.
MAP PENDING RECEIPT OF THE CITY'S AUTHORIZATION TO HAVE THE
MR. TANS UNDER DATE OF NOVEMBER IO, 1967, AND TO REFER THE
CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP TO THE CITY ENGINEER FOR RECOMMENDATION. MR. BERTRAM SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED
MR. CHASE MOVED TO DEFER ACTION ON THIS CERTIFIED SURVEY
PERCOLATION TESTS MADE AS REQUESTED IN A COMMUNICATION TO
UNANIMOUSLY.
MUSKEGO NURSING HOME - THE PLAN COMMISSION RECEIVED
PETITIONS FROM MR. HAROLD SWANTO FOR EXPANSION OF CONDITIONAL - USE FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN ADDITION TO THE MUSKEGO NURSING HOME, S77 VI8690 JANESVILLE RD. IT WAS NOTED BY THE COMMISSION
THAT THIS ADDITION WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OVER AN EXISTING
UNDERGROUND GARAGE ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
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TO CONSIDER THIS REQUEST FOR 7:45 P. M., FEBRUARY 20TH, 1968,
AND THAT AN INFORMAL HEARING WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER
ALDERMAN LENTINI MOVED TO SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING
BE SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT MEETING. HR. RAIMANN SECONDED THE
MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
CONTROL OF CITY'S GROWTH - THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF WHAT
LEGAL MECHANICS COULD BE USED TO CONTROL THE CITY'S GROWTH
PLANNER KNETZGER REFERRED TO THE WISCONSIN LAW REVIEW, BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF HOMES BUILT PER YEAR IN A SUBDIVISION.
VOL. 1961, #3, MAY, WHICH INDICATED THAT THE GROWTH COULD
LEGALLY BE CONTROLLED BY LIMITING THE AVAILABILITY OF THE
SEWER . IT WAS MAYOR GOTTFRIED'S OPINION THAT THE SUBDIVIDERS
BE MADE AWARE THAT THERE WILL BE LIMITATIONS PLACED ON THE
NUMBER OF HOMES THEY CAN BUILD WITHIN ONE YEAR.
COMMUNICATIONS - THE RECORDING SECRETARY READ AN INVI-
TATION TO THE LAND USE CONFERENCE ON THE FUTURE OF IAUKESHA
COUNTY TO BE HELD AT THE UNIVERSIWOF GJISCONSIN - MAUKESHA
CENTER, MONDAY, JAN. 29, 1968. PLANNER KNETZGER URGED THE
MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND ENCOURAGE THE PLANNING OF THE PROPOSED
LOCATIONS OF SECONDARY ROADS. e
ADJOURNMENT - ALDERMAN LENTINI MOVED FOR ADJOURNMENT, MR. RAIMANN SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MEETING ADJOURNED
AT 10:24 P. M.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
BARBARA J. SANDS RECORDING SECRETARY
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PUBLIC HEARING - LIOIVS CLUB PARK CITY PLAN COMMISSION - CITY OF MUSKEGO
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR LIONS CLUB PARK HELD FEBRUARY 6, 1968, TO CONSIDER THEIR PETITION FOR CONDITIONAL USE GRANT FOR THE PURPOSE OF A PUBLIC PARK ON A 3.5 ACRE,
TRIANGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY BOUNDED ON THE SOUTH BY RACINE AvE., BOUNDED ON THE EAST BY OAK GROVE DR. AND ABUTTING BAY SHORE ESTATES ON THE NORTH IN SECTION 0.
MAYOR GOTTFRIED DECLARED THE HEARING OPEN AT 7:50 P. M.
PRESENT: MAYOR GOTTFRIED, WILLIAM F. CHASE, CHARLES BUEHLER,
PAUL DEANGELIS, ALDERMAN LENTINI, ED RAIMANN, BUILDING INSPEC-
TOR LEE AND PLAN CONSULTANT RUSSELL KNETZGER.
THE RECORDING SECRETARY READ THE NOTICE OF HEARING AND THE
PETITION.
MR. JACK SHROBLE, MI04 S4647 JEWEL CREST DR., APPEARED AND
(40 OR MORE CARS), TREE PLANTING ALONG BOUNDARIES TO SERVE
ADVISED THE INTENDED USES FOR THE PARK - OFF STREET PARKING
AS SCREENING AND AN ACOUSTIC, SHELTER BUILDING WITH SANITARY
FACILITIES, FENCING, LIGHTING, PLAY AREA, SWINGS, SLIDES,
BALL DIAMOND AND FLOODED AREA FOR ICE SKATING.
AS THERE WERE NO FURTHER COMMENTS, THE HEARING WAS DECLARED
ADJOURNED AT 7:55 P. Ma
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
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BARBARA J. SANDS RECORDING SECRETARY