PCM19670321CITY PLAJ COMMISSION a CITY OF MUSKEGO
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD MARCX 21, 1967 CITY HALL
MAYOR GOTTFRIED CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT a:? 0 P. M.
PRESENT: MAYOR JEROME J. GOTTFRIED, CHAIRMAN, WILLIAM F.
CHASE, SEC'Y, WILLARD BERTRAM, CHARLES BUEHLER, RoaERT
G~TMIENY, ALDERMAN S. ROBERT LENTINI AND ED RAIMANN. PLAN
CONSULTANT RUSSELL KNETZGER AND BUILDING INSPECTOR LEE WERE
ALSO PRESENT.
IfINUTES: THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING, MARCH 7, 1967,
WERE APPROVED AS MAILED.
""""" PERSONAL APPEARANCES
FRANK AGENTEN - MR. AGENTEN, S72 Wl2487 TESS CORNERS DR.,
APPEARED AND SUBMITTED A PLAT OF A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION,
WOODRIDGE, TO aE LOCATED IN THE SE$ OF SECTION 1, WHICH HAD
BEEN PREPARED BY INMAN SURVEYING & ENGINEERING. MR. AGENTEN
REQUESTED APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT THE PROPOSED ROAD ADVISING
THAT APPROVAL OF THE LOTS AS SHOWN ON THE PLAT WAS NOT NECES-
SARY AT THIS TIME. IT WAS NOTED BY THE COMMISSION THAT THE NORTH-SOUTH ROAD
AS SHOWN WAS AN EXTENSION OF SKYLARK LANE. MR. CHASE ASKED
IF MR. AGENTEN INTENDED TO CONSTRUCT THE ENTIRE, PROPOSED
ALL OR A PORTION, DEPENDING ON THE COMMISSION'S WISHES. THERE 4 ROAD SYSTEM AND MR. AGENTEN ANSWERED THAT HE WOULD CONSTRUCT
WAS DISCUSSION OF THE BOULEVARD TREATMENT OF THE SOUTH PORTION
OF THE ROAD. JIAYOR GOTTFRIED SUGGESTED THAT THE PLAT aE REFERRED TO
THE PLAN CONSULTANT FOR RECOMMENDATION. PLANNER KNETZGER
TO THE CITY ENGINEER AS WELL AS A DRAINAGE STUDY MADE. MR. RAIMANN MOVED TO REFER MR. FRANK AGENTEN'S PLAN FOR
A PROPOSED ROAD IN SECTION 1 TO THE CITY PLAN CONSULTANT FOR
RECOMMENDATION. MR. GUMIENY SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE
ADVISED THAT PLANS AND PROFILES WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MRS. DOROTHY BOLDT - MRS. BOLDT, sa7 ~19543 WOODS RD.,
APPEARED AND SUBMITTED SKETCHES OF A PROPOSED 6 ACRE LAND
DIVISION FROM A TOTAL OF 60 ACRES IN THE N$, SECTION 20. IT
WAS NOTED BY THE COMMISSION THAT THE FARM BUILDINGS WOULD BE
INCLUDED IN THE 6 ACRE DIVISION. BUILDING INSPECTOR LEE POINTED OUT THAT OF THE 54 ACRES
REMAINING THERE WOULD BE 625' FRONTAGE ON THE WEST AND ~oo'+
ON THE EAST ALONG WOODS ROAD AND THAT THERE WOULD BE NO
PROBLEM IN THE DISPOSITION OF THE REMAINING LAND.
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MR. CHASE MOVED TO APPROVE MRS. BOLDT'S SKETCH FOR
LAND DIVISION AS SUBMITTED AND THAT THE COMMISSION WILL BE
ALDERMAN LENTINI SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
RECEPTIVE TO A PRELIMINARY PLAT AND CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP.
HILLENDALE REDEVELOPMENT - MRS. SYLVESTER KSOBIECH, W207
Sa144 HILLENDALE DR., APPEARED AND SUBMITTED A SKETCH OF HER
PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT VAL HALBRUCKER PROPERTY IN THE NE2
OF SECTION 10. I~Rs. KSOBIECH HAD APPEARED BEFORE THE PLAN
COMMISSION NOVEMBER 1, 1966, AND PRESENTED A PLAN FOR THE
REDEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY OF SEVERAL OWNERS ALONG HILLENDALE DR. SHE ADVISED THAT THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOW
WILLING TO WAIT UNTIL THE AREA WAS SEWERED TO DIVIDE THEIR
PROPERTIES; HOWEVER, SHE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO BUILD A HOME
ON THE EAST END OF HER PROPERTY WHICH WOULD FACE MUSKEGO
COUNTY PARK. THE PLAN WHICH MRS. KSOBIECH NOW PRESENTED
THEN VEERING SOUTHEASTERLY AND ULTIMATELY ACROSS THE HALBRUCKER
PROPERTY. MRS. KSOBIECH INDICATED THAT THE HALBRUCKERS WERE
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS ARRANGEMENT. IT WAS NOTED BY THE
COMMISSION THAT THE KSOBIECH PARCEL WAS LONG (1 333.31 '1 AND
INDICATED AN EASEMENT ACROSS THE WEST PORTION OF HER PROPERTY,
NARROW (84.94'AcRO.S.~ THE WEST END AND 100.94 ' ACROSS THE EAST). MRS. KSOBIECH ADVISED THAT SHE HAD TAKEN PERCOLATION TESTS
LAST DECEMBER, THAT THEY WERE SATISFACTORY.
OR WAY, OF THE MUSKEGO ZONING ORDINANCE.
PLANNER KNETZGER REVEIWED SECTION 4.07 (41, PRIVATE STREET
IT WAS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION TO ADVISE MRS. KSOBIECH
THAT BECAUSE THE LOTS WHICH WOULD BE CREATED WOULD NOT MEET
THE ZONING REQUIREMENT FOR THAT AREA, THE REQUEST WOULD HAVE
TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COMMON COUNCIL FOR DETERMINATION OF A
BUILDABLE LOT.
ERVIN WHITEHOUSE - MR. WHITEHOUSE, S67 w21885 TANS DR.,
APPEARED SEEKING APPROVAL TO BUILD A SECOND DWELLING ON HIS
118.26 ACRE FARM IN THE SW$ OF SECTION 6 (RCE DISTRICT). MR.
FLOOR AREA AND WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO TANS DR. IT WAS NOTED BY
THE COMMISSION THAT AS THE HOUSE WAS SHOWN ON THE PLAN THERE
WHITEHOUSE ADVISED THAT THE NEW HOME WOULD BE 1600 SQ. FT. IN
WOULD BE SUFFICIENT AREA TO MAKE A LAND DIVISION WITH THE
REQUIRED AREA AT A LATER TIME, AND IT WAS THEIR DECISION TO
APPROVE MR. WHITEHOUSE'S PROPOSAL FOR THE ADDITIONAL HOME
WITH THE CONDITION THAT SETBACKS, GRADE, ETC. ARE COMPLIED
WITH.
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JZROME DRUGS - HAYOR GOTTFRIED RELINQUISHED THE CHAIR
TO SEC'Y CHASE DURING THE PRESENTATION OF A REVISED SIGN FOR
HIS PROPOSED NEW DRUG STORE TO BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG HIWAY 24.
THE PROPOSED FREE-STANDING SIGN IS TO BE 6'HIGH BY 28' LONG
AND WILL STAND 22 ' HIGH. PLANNER KNETZGER EXPRESSED CONCERN AT THE SIZE AND
BRIGHTNESS OF THE SIGN; HOWEVER, HAYOR GOTTFRIED ADVISED
THAT THE BUILDING WILL BE SET BACK 203' FROM HIWAY 24 AND
BRIGHTNESS OF THE SIGN WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH ONCOMING
TRAFFIC ON THE HIWAY. THE COMMISSION EXPRESSED CONCERN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE
SIGN WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER SIGNS TO BE LOCATED IN THE
PROPOSED PARKLAND PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER. IT WAS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION TO DEFER ACTION ON THE
SIGN UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
BERNARD LINDIVE~ - MR. LINDNER, W136 5'6468 SHERWOOD CT.,
WAS UNABLE TO APPEAR IN REGARD TO HIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION
IN THE S$ OF SECTION 3. MR. CHASE ADVISED THAT THERE WOULD BE A COMMUNICATION
FORTHCOMING FROM THE flUSKEGO-~ORWAY CONSOLIDATED SCHOOL DISTRICT INDICATING THEIR FEELINGS AS TO THAT PORTION OF THE LIIVDXER PROPEATY WHICH HAS BEEN DESIGNATED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A SCHOOL AND PARK SITE.
PLATTING STUDY TO THE STATE HIGHWAY COMMISSION. PLANNER KNETZGER ADVISED THAT HE HAD SUBMITTED THE AREA
WAUER'S MUSKEGO RENDERING Cos - THE COMMISSION REVIEWED
THE PETITIONS AND EXHIBITS SUBMITTED BY CARL WAUER FOR
AN OFFICE BUILDING AND SCALE AT THE RENDERING PLANT ON WAUER EXPANSION OF CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING
LANE IN SECTION 18. MR. BUEHLER-MOVED TO SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
APRIL 18TH, 7:30 P. M. ALDERMAN LENTINI SECONDED THE MOTION
AND THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ZONING CHANGE - THE RULES, LAWS & ORDINANCES COMMITTEE
REFERRED BACK TO THE COMMISSION THE ORDINANCE AMENDING
SEC. 8.01 (7) B WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT GUEST HOUSES
AND EMPLOYEES QUARTERS BE INCLUDED WITH THE PROVISION THAT
THEY BE SUBJECT TO APPROPAL BY THE PLAN COMMISSION. IT WAS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION TO HAVE CITY ATTORNEY HIPPENMEYER REDRAFT THE ORDINANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS
RECOMMENDATION AND TO ALSO INQUIRE AS TO THE FEASIBILITY OF
HAVING A MINIMUM HOUSING SIZE.
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e RENE MASCH - THE COMMISSION REVIEWED A REVISED PRELIMINARY
PLAT PREPARED BY WAUKESHA LAND SURVEYS PIARCH 21, 1967, FOR
THIS ONE ACRE LAND DIVISION FOR RENE MASCH IN SECTION I 1. THIS
LAND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMMISSION'S REQUEST AT THE
PREVIOUS ITEETING. SATISFACTORY PERCOLATION TESTS WERE ALSO
PLAT ALSO INDICATED POSSIBLE FUTURE DIVISIONS OF THE REMAINING
SUBMITTED. PLANNER KNETZGER AOVISED THAT THIS DIVISION WOULD BE
ACCEPTABLE IF THE PARCEL HAD ACCESS TO MCSHANE DRIVE RATHER
THAN DURHAM DRIVE. MR. BUEHLER MOVED TO APPROVE THE PLAT AS SUBMITTED FOR
THE ONE ACRE LAND DIVISION AS WELL AS THE DIVISIONS OF THE
REMAINING LAND. ALDERMAN LENTINI SECONDED THE MOTION AND
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
TEXACO. INC. - REVISED SITE PLAAE FOR THE PROPOSED SERVICE
STATION, CORNER OF Hr 24 & TESS CORNERS DRIVE, WERE NOT
SUBMITTED.
PARKLAND PLAZA SHOPPING CENTEa - AS REGARDS THIS SHOPPING
CENTER PROPOSED FOR THE CORNER OF HY 24 & LANNON DRIVE, MAYOR GOTTFRIED ADVISED THAT CITY ENGINEER RUEKERT HAS REQUESTED
PLANS SHOWING THE FLOW OF WATER AND DRAINAGE PATTERNFOR THE
ENTIRE AREA INCLUDING THE RESIDENTIAL AND THAT HE EXPRESSED
CONCERN FOR THE AMOUNT OF WATER WHICH WILL DRAIN ACROSS LANNON DRIVE. THE FOLLOWING COMMUNICATION DIRECTED TO Ih. DAVID COUTURE.
DATED MARCH 21, 1967, FROM HOFFMANN, POLZIN & Assoc. WAS
REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION:
11 DEAR DAVE: THE SUGGESTED GEADE OF THE FIRST FLOOR FOR YOUR BUILDINGS
AT PARKLAND PLAZA IS 008 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: ANY GRADE LOWER THAN THIS COULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE
SURFACE WATER XUN-OFF. AN EXCESSIVE GRADE WOULD RESULT AT THE
ENTRANCE DRIVE FROM HIGHWAY "24". THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUIL-
DINGS WOULD BE SERIOUSLY AFFECTED. A HIGHER GRADE WOULD REQUIRE ITORE FILL UNDER THE SLAB
WHICH IS UNDESIRABLE AND WOULD REQUIRE EXTENSIVE FILLING OVER
THE ENTIRE SITE. WITH THE LACK OF AVAILABLE FILL MATERIAL, IT
WOULD BE MANY YEARS BEFORE THE PROJECT COULD ACQUIRE A FINISHED
LOOK.
YOUR ARCHITECT SHOULD BE CONSULTED TO SEE HOW THIS CON-
FORMS WITH HIS THOUGHTS FOR FRONT ELEVATIONS AND DETAILED e PARKING LOT DESIGN.
/s/ DONALD R. POLZIN" SINCERELY YOURS,
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MARCH 21, 1967
HALES CORNERS SAND & GRAVEL - A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD
JUST PRIOR TO THIS REGULAR PLAN COMMISSION MEETING.
FOR THIS GRAVEL OPERATION IN SECTION 12. THEY ALSO EXPRESSED
CONCERN THAT THE $30,000 BOND MIGHT NOT BE SUFFICIENT. MAYOR
GOTTFRIED SUGGESTED THAT THE COMMISSION VIEW THE SITE.
CITY ENGINEER FOR RECOMMENDATION AS TO THE AMOUNT OF BOND
AS TO PROGRESSIVE RESTORATION DATES. ALDERMAN LENTINI SECONDED
THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED THE RESTORATION PLAN AND PROGRESS
MR. BUEHLER MOVED TO REFER THE RESTORATION PLAN TO THE
NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE RESTORATION AS WELL AS RECOMMENDATION
THE MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
EARL HARDTIE - THE COMMISSION REVIEWED A CERTIFIED SURVEY
MAP FOR LOTS 7 AND 8, BLOCK IO, OF UNRECORDED OAK RIDGE
SUBDIVISION WHICH HAD BEEN PREPARED BY WAUKESHA LAND SURVEYS MARCH 21, 1967, FOR EARL HARDTKE AND PEARL HOTELLING.
MAP AS SUBMITTED. UR. BERTRAM SECONDED THE MOTION. MR. CHASE MOVED TO AMEND THE,,MOTION TO INCLUDE SUBJECT
TO APPROVAL BY THE CITY ENGINEER. PIR. BERTRAFI SECOIVDED THE
ALDERMAN LENTINI MOVED TO ACCEPT THE CERTIFIED SURVEY
a MOTION AND THE XOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. THE MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. "_"" COMMUNICATIONS
HERBERT THODE PROPERTY - As CONCERNS MR. RICHARD THODE 'S
REQUEST FOR A TWO PARCEL LAND DIVISION IN SECTION 26 WHICH
WOULD CREATE TWO SUBSTANDARD LOTS TO SEPARATE TWO EXISTING
DWELLINGS, THE FOLLOWING COMMUNICATION DATED MARCH 8, 1967,
FROM CITY ATTORNEY HIPPENMEYER WAS READ BY THE RECORDING SECRETARY:
II DEAR MR. KNETZGER:
RE: GRANTING VARIANCES ON LOT SIZE AS PART OF PLATTING
IN REPLY TO YOUR LETTER OF FEBRUARY 24, 1967, IN REGARD
TO THE ABOVE ENTITLED SUBJECT, AFTER REVIEWING THE PROBLEM, IT
IS OUR OPINION THAT A VARIANCE CAN BE LEGIT.IMATELY APPLIED FOR.
THE CORRECT PROCEDURE WOULD BE FOR THE PETITIONER TO
PETITION TO THE COMMON COUNCIL FOR A VARIANCE, WHO WOULD THEN
REFER IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHO WOULD MAKE A RECOM-
MENDATION. IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS OF THE OPINION THAT e THE VARIANCE IS PROPER, THEY SHOULD THEN MAKE A FINDING. II IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO APPLY LITERALLY THE
ORDINANCE BECAUSE IN THIS INSTANCE, EXTRA-ORDINARP HARDSHIPS
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WOULD RESULT AND THAT A GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD ACCOMPLISH
SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE AND, FURTHER, THAT THE PUBLIC INTEFZEST
SECURED. If
AFTER THE HEARING AND THE FINDINGS BY THE PLANNING COM-
MISSION, THE MATTER SHOULD THEN BE REFERRED TO THE COMMON
COUNCIL, WHO SHOULD ACT ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF THIS PROCEDURE IS FOLLOWED, IT IS OUR OPINION
THAT THE ~OARD OF APPEALS NEED NOT ACT ON THE MATTER. SINCERELY,
/s/ IJ. F. REILLY"
IT WAS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION THAT MR. THODE BE
THE COMMON ADVISED TO SUBMIT THE REQUEST FOR
COUNCIL.
VARIANCE TO
PLANJER'S REPORTS
PLANNER KNETZGER SUBKITTED F
A SKETCH PLAN OF THE FREEWAY, THE
LANDS.
OR THE COMMISSION'S REVIEW
INDUSTRIAL AND RELATED
e ADJOURNMENT
I%. GUMIENY FIOVED FOR ADJOURNMENT. A'LD. LENTINI SECONDED
THE MOTION AND THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 10:55 P. M.
RESPECTFULLY SUSMITTED,
BARBARA J. SANDS RECORDING SECRETARY
DATED THIS 27TH DAY
OF MARCH, 1967