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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 7, 1 967 CITY HALL
MAYOR GOTTFRIED CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 8:07 P. M.
PRESENT: MAYOR JEROME GOTTFRIED, CHAIRMAN, WILLIAM F. CHASE,
AND ALDERMAN S. ROBERT LENTINI. PLAN CONSULTANT RUSSELL KNETZGER WAS ALSO PRESENT.
ABSENT: ED RAIMANN & BUILDING INSPECTOR LEE
SECRETARY, WILLARD BERTRAM, CHARLES BUEHLER, ROBERT GUMIENY
MINUTES: THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JANUARY 3RD AND THE
MEETING OF JANUARY 1?TH, 1967, WERE APPROVED AS MAILED.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
WALTER CHMIEL - MR. WALTER CHMIEL, S77 W15483 WOODS RD.,
OF THREE 1/2 ACRE PARCELS - LOTS 3, 4 & 5 - FROM HIS PROPERTY
WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY ENGINEER FRANK RUEKERT, MR.
APPEARED AND SUBMITTED THE CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP FOR DIVISION
IN THE SW $ OF SECTION 11 (RS-2 DISTRICT). IN ACCORDANCE
CHMIEL ALSO SUBMITTED A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT SHOWING
SUGGESTED DISPOSITION OF THE BALANCE OF HIS PROPERTY WHICH
HAD BEEN PREPARED BY WAUKESHA LAND SURVEYS, INC. IT WAS ALSO
NOTED BY THE COMMISSION THAT THE PRIVATE SEWAGE EASEMENT FORMS
PLANNER KNETZGER ASKED I~R. CHMIEL IF HE HAD RECEIVED
HAD BEEN COMPLETED PENDING SIGNATURES.
PERMISSION FROM THE ELECTRIC Go. TO CONSTRUCT A ROAD ACROSS
THEIR RIGHT-OF-WAY AND MR. CHMIEL ANSWERED THAT HE HAD NOT
THERE. IT WAS NOTED BY THE COMMISSION THAT MR. CHHIEL HAD
AN ADDITIONAL 26.9 ACRES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ELECTRIC
ASKED, THAT THERE WAS AN EXISTING FARM ROAD GOING THROUGH
CO. RIGHT-OF-WAY. THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF THE
LAY-OUT FOR THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS SHOWN ON THE
PRELIMINARY PLAT AND IT WAS THE COMMISSION'S OPINION THAT MR. CHHIEL BE ADVISED THAT WHEN THE BALANCE OF THE LAND IS TO
THE ELECTRIC Go. RIGHT-OF-WAY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN ORDER
BE SUBDIVIDED, HE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT AN ACCESS ROAD ACROSS
TO OPEN UP THE SOUTHERN PART OF HIS PROPERTY.
ALTHOUGH THE PERCOLATION TESTS HAD BEEN TAKEN, THEY WERE
MR. BUEHLER MOVED TO APPROVE THE CERTIFIEG SURVEY MAP
NOT AVAILABLE AT THE MEETING.
FOR DIVISION OF LOTS 3, 4 & 5 FROM THE WALTER CHMIEL PROPERTY
IN THE SW$ OF SECTION 11 SUBJECT TO RECEIPT OF SATISFACTORY
PERCOLATION TESTS. MR. CHASE SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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HERBERT THODE - I~R. IfeKBFKT THODE, Wl51 30170 THODE DR.,
APPEARED AND SUBMITTED A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE DIVISION
OF TWO PARCELS FROM HIS PROPERTY IN THE SW; OF SECTION 26
(A DISTRICT) WHICH HAD BEEN PREPARED BY WAUKESHA LAND SURVEYS, INC. IT WAS NOTED BY THE COMMISSION THAT THE REQUIREMENT FOR
LOT WIDTH IN AN A DISTRICT IS 300' WITH 120,000 SQ. FT. IN LOT
AREA. MR. THODE'S REQUEST WAS TO CREATE TWO LOTS - ONE TO BE
100' x 600' (60,000 SQ. FT.) AND THE OTHER LOT 200' X 600'
(120,000 SQ. FT. ). MR. THODE EXPLAINED THAT HE WAS SEEKING
PERMISSION TO CREATE THESE TWO SUBSTANDARD LOTS TO SEPARATE
TWO EXISTING DWELLINGS, THAT THE SMALL LOT BORDERED ON HIS
NORTH LOT LINE (ADJACENT TO THE WILLIAM FRIETAG, JR., PROPERTY)
AND BECAUSE OF HIS BARN, THE SECOND LOT COULD NOT BE EXTENDED
INTO THE BALANCE OF HIS PROPERTY. PLANNER KNETZGER ADVISED MR. THODE THAT THE COMMISSION
WOULD BE A PROBLEM WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE RESOLVED BY THE ~OARD
OF APPEALS. IT WAS THE COMNISSION'S OPINION THAT PERHAPS MR. THODE COULD OBTAIN ENOUGH LAND FROM MR. FRIETAG TO MAKE THE
COULD NOT GRANT APPROVAL OF THESE SUBSTANDARD LOTS, THAT THIS
SMALL LOT REQUIRED SIZE.
MR. CHASE MOVED TO DEFER ACTION. MR. GUMIENY SECONDED THE
MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PARKLAJD PLAZA - MR. DAVE COUTURE APPEARED AND SUBMITTED
TWO REVISED SITE PLANS & ELEVATIONS FOR THE PARKLAND PLAZA
SHOPPING CENTER PROPOSED FOR THE CORNER OF HIWAY 24 AND LANNON DRIVE WHICH HAD BEEN PREPARED BY KOERNER ASSOCIATES UNDER DATE
OF FEB. 7, 1967. MR. COUTURE EXPLAINED THAT THE PLANS AS
PRESENTED WERE BASED ON PENDING NEGOTIATIONS WITH CHAIRMAN
GOTTFRIED FOR RELOCATION OF HIS PROPOSED DRUG STORE. THIS
PLAN WOULD INCLUDE THE JEROME DRUGS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER AND
USED AS ACCESS AND PARKING AREA FOR THE CENTER. HR. COUTURE
ADVISED THAT THE PLANS HAD BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE STATE HIGHWAY
COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL OF ACCESSES. HE POINTED OUT AN ERROR
THE PROPERTY RECENTLY PURCHASED FOR A DRUG STORE SITE WOULD BE
ON THE ELEVATION INASMUCH AS THE SIGNS AS SKETCHED SHOULD BE
ABOVE THE CANOPY.
THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION OF THE TENANT'S LOCATIONS,
THE FEASIBILITY OF THE PARKING AREAS, DISCUSSION OF OTHER
SHOPPING CENTERS, ETC. THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION OF PLANTERS
IN THE PARKING AREA AND 'MR. COUTURE ADVISED THAT THIS HAD BEEN
FOUND TO BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH SNOW REMOVING EQUIPMENT. PLANNER KNETZGER SUGGESTED THAT THE SITE PLAN DESIGNATED
Jo. 1 INDICATING 620 PARKING SPACES BE GIVEN GENERAL APPROVAL
SO THAT FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS CAN BE MADE WITH THE TENANTS BUT
THAT SPECIFIC APPROVAL CAN ONLY BE GIVEN WHEN DATA AS TO
PLAN DESIGNATED MORE PARKING IN FRONT OF THE CENTER ALONG HIGH- GRADING, DRAINAGE, ETC., IS SUBMITTED. THE ALTERNATE SITE
WAY 24, LESS IN THE REAR, ALTHOUGH THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDINGS
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WAS THE SAME AS ON SITE PLAN NO. 1. MR. CHASE MOVED TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN
DESIGNATED No. 1 INDICATING 628 PARKING SPACES CONTINGENT UPON
A SPECIFIC SITE PLAN WHEN COMPLETED. MR. BERTRAM SECONDED THE
MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
OTHER BUSINESX
BOLDT ESTATE - THE COMMISSION REVIEWED A PRELIMINARY PLAT
OF THE WILLIAM BOLDT ESTATE PROPERTY IN THE SE$, SECTION 2,
WHICH HAD BEEN PREPARED BY PAUKESHA LAND SURVEYS, INC. As IN-
DICATED ON THE PRELIMINARY, SEVEN 50' LOTS HAD ORIGINALLY
BEEN PLATTED. BECAUSE OF THREE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE LOTS,
LOT 150' IN WIDTH AND TWO LOTS I 00' IN WIDTH. As THE ZONING IN
THIS AREA, RS-2, CALLS FOR 110' IN LOT WIDTH, THE COMMISSION
LOTS WHEN IT APPEARED THAT STANDARD LOTS COULD BE CREATED. IT
WAS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION THAT MAYOR GOTTFRIED CONTACT THE
IT WAS THEIR REQUEST TO COMBINE THE LOTS TO CREATE A SINGLE
EXPRESSED CONCERN AS TO THE REASON FOR CREATING SUBSTANDARD
PARTIES INVOLVED TO DETERNINE THE REASONING FOR THIS.
JAMES HERNKE - THE COMMISSION REVIEWED THE PLAN WHICH HAD
BEEN PRESENTED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING BY MR. HERNKE FOR
IMPROVINGTHE APPEARANCE OF HIS PLACE OF BUSINESS ON HIGHWAY 24.
MR. BUEHLER MOVED TO ACCEPT THE SITE PLAN WHICH HAD BEEN
SUBMITTED BY MR. HERNKE FOR IMPROVEIIENT OF THE APPEARANCE OF
HIS PLACE OF BUSINESS, JIM'S AUTO SERVICE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING
BUILDING (WONDER BUILDING) WILL BE GRANTED IF THE FOLLOWING
THAT THE EXPANSION OF CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST FOR A STORAGE
CONDITIONS ARE COMPLETED BY AUGUST IST, 1967:
1. REDWOOD BASKETWEAVE FENCE AS INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN
I 2. GRAVEL BASE AS INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN
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3. GENERAL MAINTENANCE AND GOOD HOUSEKEEPING, PARTICULARLY
IN FRONT
4. FINER DEFINITION OF THE FRONT ACCESSES AND PARKING
AREA S
5. SCREENING ON THE EAST LOT LINE AS INDICATED ON THE SITE
PLAN
6. No STORAGE OF UNLICENSED VEHICLES IN THE FRONT OF THE
BUILDING
ALDERMAN LENTINI SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANINOUSLY.
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TOVN OF VERNON - PLAT APPROVAL - As CONCERNS MAJOR MANOR
SUBDIVISION IN SECTION 12 OF THE TOWN OF VERNON OVER WHICH MUSKEGO CAN EXERCISE ITS EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, PLANNER KNETZGER REPORTED THAT HE HAD CONTACTED THE VAUKESHA PARK & PLAN COMMISSION REGARDING THE EXTENSION OF FIELD DRIVE. HE
AND THAT IT WAS THEIR OPINION THAT FIELD DRIVE SHOULD NOT BE
WAS ADVISED THAT THIS PLAT HAD BEEN APPROVED IN 1960 BY THEM
EXTENDED.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS MATTER
ALDERMAN LENTINI MOVED TO APPROVE THE PLAT OF JOHN MAJOR SHOULD BE PURSUED, HOWEVER, THE FOLLOWING MOTION RESULTED:
IN THE TOWN OF VERNON. MR. BUEHLER SECONDED THE MOTION AND
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
CARL POSBRIG - HAYOR GOTTFRIED ADVISED THAT HE HAD CONTACTED
CITY ENGINEER FRANK RUEKERT AND THAT HE HAD FOUND THE CERTIFIED
SURVEY MAP TO BE ADEQUATE FOR CARL POSBRIG'S 2.5 ACRE LAND
DIVISION IN THE NE+, SECTION 29, WHICH HAD BEEN PREPARED BY
SURVEYOR LLOYD DANCEY.
CARL POSBRIG. MR. GUMIENY SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MOTION
MR. CHASE MOVED TO APPROVE THE CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP FOR a CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ZONING CHANGE - MAYOR GOTTFRIED REVIEWED THE COMMUNICATION
FROM CITY ATTORNEY HIPPENMEYER (RECORDED IN THE MINUTES OF
SECTION 0.01 (7) B (QUARTERS FOR EMPLOYEES & GUEST HOUSES), PAGE 65 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
JANUARY 17, 1967) REGARDING THE POSSIBLE ZONING CHANGE IN
THE COMMISSION AGAIN EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT TKE PROVISION
COULD BE CIRCUMVENTED AND A HOUSE COULD BE ERECTED WHICH WOULD
NOT CONFORM TO THE ZONING IN A CERTAIN AREA FOR PURPOSES OTHER
THAN TO HOUSE A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE. MR. CHASE MOVED THAT RECOMHENDATION BR MADE TO THE COMMON
COUNCIL THAT SECTION 0.01 (7) B, IT.TMS 2 & 3 AS FOLLOWS BE
STRICKEN FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE:
2. QUARTERS FOR HOUSEHOLD OR FARM EMPLOYEES, PROVIDED
THAT SUCH QUARTERS SHALL BE OCCUPIED ONLY BY INDIVIDUALS
EMPLOYED FULL TIME ON THE PREMISES AND THEIR FAMILIES.
3. GUEST HOUSES ON LOTS OF AT LEAST 120,000 SQUARE
FEET, PROVIDED SUCH STRUCTURE SHALL NOT BE RENTED, LEASED,
OR USED FOR CONTINUOUS OR PERMANENT HABITATION.
MR. BUEHLER SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MOTION CARRIED WITH
ALDERMAN LENTINI CASTING THE ONLY DISSENTING VOTE.
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PLANNER'S REPORTS
12LTH STREET INTERCHANGE - PLANNER KNETZGER REVIEWED A
MAP WHICH INDICATED THE PROPOSED FUTURE TREATMENT OF THE 124~~
ST. INTERCHANGE AND HOW IT WOULD AFFECT OUR PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL
AREA.
SCHOOL SITE UPDATE - PLANNER KNETZGER REPORTED ON HIS
MEETING WITH SUPERINTENDENT ROBERT JL KREUSER REGARDING
FUTURE SCHOOL SITES, GROWTH FORECASTING, ETC. THERE WAS
SOME DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PLANNER SHOULD BE
AUTHORIZED TO PROCEED WITH THE SCHOOL SITE UPDATE, HOWEVER,
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS NO REASON FOR ACTION AT THIS
TIME.
INDUSTRIAL STUDY - PLANNER KNETZGER REPORTED THAT PROGRESS
WAS BEING MADE ON THE INDUSTRIAL REPORT AND THAT IT WOULD BE
READY SOON.
ADJOURNMENT - MR. GUMIENY MOVED FOR ADJOURNMENT, I~R. BERTRAM
SECONDED THE MOTION AND THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 11 :15 P. M.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
BARBARA J. SANDS RECORDING SECRETARY
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