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PCM19660802aSPECIAL IYIEETING - AUGUST 2, I966 PLAN CO?iIfISSION & VALTER SCHULTZ (ffUSKZG0 ASPHALT PLAliT) (SHERVIN CORP. ) MAYOR GOTTFRIED DECLARED THE MEETING OPEN AT 7:45 P. M. PRESENT: HAYOR JEROME GOTTFRIED, CHAIRMAN, WILLIAM CHASE, SEC'Y, ALDERMAN S. ROBERT LENTINI, WILLARD BERTRAM, CHARLES BUEHLER AND ED RAIMANN. RUSSELL KNETZGER, CONSULTANT, WAS ALSO PRESENT. MR. WALTER SCHULTZ, REPRESENTATIVE FROM ifUSKEG0 ASPHALT PLANT, APPEARED BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THEIR REQUEST IN LIEU OF THE COMMON COUNCIL 's REQUEST THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION h. SCHULTZ ADVISED THE COMMISSION THAT THEY DO NOT WANT IN ANSWER TO A QUESTION FROM I~R. CHASE, MR. SCHULTZ DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF RELOCATING THE ASPHALT PLANT. TO MOVE NOR GO OUT OF BUSINESS. ADVISED THAT THEIR ASPHALT PLANT ON MORGAN ST, IN IfILWAUKEE HAS BEEN OPERATING SINCE 1953 AND IS THE SAME TYPE OF PLANT AS THE ?iUSKEGO ASPHALT PLANT; THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO BEING THAT GAS IS USED AT THE MORGAN ST. PLANT INSTEAD OF OIL. HE POINTED OUT THAT A GOOD GRADE OF OIL IS USED IN THE MUSKEGO PLANT AND THE TWO PLANTS HAVE RELATIVELY THE SAME OPERATING SYSTEM. MR. SCHULTZ REVIEWED THE OPERATING SYSTEM FOR THE COMMISSION. ifR. CHASE QUESTIONED IF MILWAUKEE HAD AIR POLLUTION CONTROL AND JIR. SCHULTZ ANSWERED YES", THAT THEY ARE WORKING II ON IT AND TRYING NEW INNOVATIONS CONSTANTLY. PiR. CHASE QUESTIONED IF BAG COLLECTORS HAD BEEN CONSIDERED AND MR. SCHULTZ ADVISED THAT HE HAD RECENTLY VISITED A PLANT WHICH WAS TRYING OUT THE BAG COLLECTORS, BUT HE POINTED OUT THAT THE PLANT HAD USZD TWO SETS OF BAGS IN A MONTH AND A HALF WHICH PROVED VERY EXPENSIVE AND, IN HIS OPINION, WAS NOT WORKING OUT. I~R. BUEHLER QUESTIONED AS TO WHY THE ASPHALT PLANT NEEDED TWO SEASONS IN ADDITION TO THE PRESENT ONE TO MOVE THE ASPHALT PLANT. MR. SCHULTZ EXPLAINED THAT THEY NEEDED CONTINUITY OF BUSINESS, THAT MANY SMALL CONTRACTORS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF MUSKEGO, RELIED ON THE PLANT AND THAT THE PLANT COULD NOT BE MOVED ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT". PORTABLE, THE PERMIT WAS RENEWED YEARLY, AND ASKED MR. SCHULTZ MOVED AT A GIVEN TIME IN VIEW OF THE PLAN COMMISSION ACTION OF II MR. BUEHLER POINTED OUT THAT THE PLANT WAS TEMPORARY AND IF THEY DID NOT ANTICIPATE THAT THE PLANT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE PREVIOUS YEAR. MR. SCHULTZ EXPRESSED SURPRISE AT MR. .BUEHLER REFERRING TO THIS AS A TEMPORARY AND PORTABLE PLANT AND EXPLAINED THAT THIS IS A PERMANENT PLANT, THAT IT COULD NOT BE MOVED AT A II 11 1 MR. BUEHLER POINTED OUT THAT GRAVEL HAD BEEN BROUGHT IN SETERAL TIMES. I~R. SCHULTZ EXPLAINED THAT THIS VAS JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THE MIX, A CRUSHED MATERIAL, AN ADDITIVE, WHICH IS ONLY PART OF THE TOTAL AGGRAGATE USED. PAGE 2 AUGUST 2, 1966 MR. BUEHLER POINTED OUT THAT, AS WAS INDICATED IN LAST YEAR'S PLAN COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, THE PLANT MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE AND QUESTIONED IF ANY ATTEMPT HAD BEEN MADE TO FIND A NEW LOCATION. MR. SCHULTZ ADVISED THAT THEY HAD NOT ATTEMPTED TO FIND MAYOR GOTTFRIED QUESTIONED WHAT THE PLANT WOULD LOOK FOR A NEW SITE FOR RELOCATION OF THE PLANT. IN CONSIDERING A NEW SITE AND MR. ~CHULTZ ADVISED THAT THEY THAT THERE MUST BE GRAVEL AT OUR FINGERTIPS': THAT THE ASPHALT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF THE MORGAN ST. PLANT AND MR. SCHULTZ ADVISED THAT THE GRAVEL HAD TO BE HAULED IN AT WOULD LOOK FOR A GRAVEL DEPOSIT SUITABLE FOR READY-MIX ASPHALT, It PLANT MUST BE PART OF A QUARRYING OPERATION. THAT PLANT. MR. RAIMANN QUESTIONED IF ANY MATERIAL~~WAS HAULED IN AT I~R. RAIMANN QUESTIONED HOW THE SIZE OF THIS PLANT COMPARES THE MUSKEGO PLANT AND I~R. SCHULTZ ANSWERED NOT NOW". IN SIZE AND PRODUCTION TO THE MORGAN ST. PLANT AND MR. SCHULTZ ANSWERED ABOUT HALF THE SIZE". WERE RESIDENCES 110' AWAY FROM THE MORGAN ST. PLANT. MR. LENTINI QUESTIOMED IF THERE WAS ANY OPPOSITION FROM THE RESI- DENTS NEAR THE MORGAN ST, PLANT AND MR. SCHULTZ ANSWERED II IN ANSWER TO A QUESTION, MR. SCHULTZ ADVISED THAT THERE It NO, IT'S BEKN VERY CLEAN DOWN THERE". It IYR. LENTINI QUESTIONED WHY IT COULDN'T BE CLEANER HERE - DO WE HAVE TO CREATE AN AIR POLLUTION C0NTROL;I HERE OR CAN WE DEPEND ON YOU AS AN OPERATOR TO KEEP CONTROL? I~R. SCHULTZ ADVISED THAT THEY DO THEIR BEST, THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CATCH EVERYTHING. HR. LENTINI QUESTIONED IF THERE WAS A BLOWER ON THE STACK AND MR. SCHULTZ ANSWERED NO, THERE IS AN EXHAUST FAN". HE It EXPLAINED THE OPERATION OF THE FAN. MR. CHASE QUESTIONED THE EFFICIENCY OF THE WASHER AND UR. SCHULTZ ADVISED THAT THERE WAS 95 TO 96% EFFICIENCY AND FILTER THE AIR loo$, SHERWIN CORP. FOULD BE THE FIRST TO GET IT. MR. BUEHLER REVIEWED THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLAN COMMISSION TO DENY THIS PERMIT AND POINTED OUT CONCLUDED THAT IF THERE WAS ANYTHING AVAILABLE THAT IiOULD THAT 20 MONTHS SHOULD BE AMPLE TIME TO RELOCATE THE PLANT AND QUESTIONED WHY SOME EFFORT HAD NOT BEEN MADE TO RELOCATE. MR. SCHULTZ ADVISED THAT, ALTHOUGH HE WAS AWARE OF THIS RECOMMENDATION, IT HAD NOT BEEN PASSED BY THE COUNCIL. HE WENT ON TO EXPLAIN THAT P~USKEGO ASPHALT WAS LEASING THEIR EQUIP- MENT FROM GRAVEL, INC. HAVE TO BE INITIATED BY DALE DAWSON (GRAVEL, INC. 1. MR. BUEHLER POINTED OUT THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE HAD BEEN GIVEN TO GRAVEL^ INC., FOR THE OPERATION OF THEIR PIT AND THAT THE SHEBWIN CORP. HAD BEEN GIVEN AN ACCESSORY USE PERMIT, IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THE MOVEMENT OF THE PLAHT WOULD PAGE 3 AUGUST 2, 1966 MR. SCHULTZ POINTED OUT THAT THE PLANT HAS BEEN HERE FOR 7 YEARS AS A BUSINESS, THAT THEY HAVE OBLIGATIONS TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, THAT THEY COULD NOT JUST SIT BY AND SEE THINGS GO TO THE WIND 'I. I! MR. BUEHLER ADVISED THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION HAS RES- PONSIBILITY TO THE RESIDENTS IN MUSKEGO, THAT THE QUESTION AT HAND IS IS THIS A GOOD LOCATION FOR THIS PLANT?" AND POINTED It OUT THE PROBLEMS TOLERATED BY THE RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, SUCH AS DUST, ODORS AND SMOKE, AND CONCLUDED THAT THE PLANT'S CONTINUED OPERATION WOULD BE :YORE FAVORABLE AT ANOTHER LOCATION. MAYOR GOTTFRIED QUESTIONED IF IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE TO MOVE THE PLANT TO ANOTHER LOCATION AND MR. SCHULTZ ANSWERED It YES" IF THERE WAS ACCESS TO GRAVEL AND ACCZSSES TO A MAIN HIGHWAY. HE POINTED OUT THAT THEY HAVE THIS AT THEIR PRESENT LOCATION, BUT IF A BETTER LOCATION WAS FOUND, THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO MOVE. MAYOR GOTTFRIED QUESTIONED IF GRAVEL, INC., WOULD HAVE TO OWN THE GRAVEL PIT AND I~R. SCHULTZ ANSWERED THAT THEY MUST OWN THE GRAVEL AND MIX THE ASPHALT AT THE SAME LOCATION. HR. BUEHLER POINTED OUT THAT FIRST THERE WAS THE GRAVEL OPERATION AND THEN CAME THE ASPHALT OPERATION, THEY WERE TWO SEPARATE OPERATIONS UNDER SEPARATE OWNERSHIPS, AND THE ASPHALT. PLANT CAME IN ON A ONE YEAR BASIS ON A PERMIT, AND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN STATEMENTS FROM ALDERMEN AS TO THE OBNOXIOUS AND NAUSEATING ODORS COMING FROM THE PLANT. I~R. LENTINI QUESTIONED AS TO HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE THE PLANT TO RELOCATE IF ANOTHER LOCATION WAS FOUND. I~R. SCHULTZ ANSWERED THAT IT WOULD TAKE JUST AS LONG AS IT WOULD TAKE TO ACQUIRE THE LAND, GET THE PROPER ZONING, AND ERECT A NEW PLANT. NR. LENTINI QUESTIONED HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO JUST MOVE ACQUIRED AND MR. SCHULTZ ANSWERED THAT IT WOULD TAKE 4 TO 5 THE PLANT IF THERE WAS PROPER ZONING AND THE LAND HAD BEEN MONTHS TO SET UP THE PLANT DECENTLY INCLUDING ELECTRICAL WIRING, PIPING, ETC., THAT IT WOULD NOT BE LIKE HOOKING UP A TEMPORARY PLANT. IYR. RAIMANN QUESTIONED IF WHEN THE PLANT WAS FIRST SET UP WAS IT PERMANENT, MR.. SCHULTZ ANSWERED THAT IT HAD BEEN MOVED IN ON WHEELS AND THEN SET RICHT INTO CONCRETE. I~R. CHASE QUESTIONED WHAT IMPROVEMENTS HAD BEEN MADE SINCE LAST YEAR AND I~R. SCHULTZ ANSWERED THAT THE WELL HAD BEEN DRILLED DEEPER, HORSEPOWER INCREASED ON THE WELL PUMP, HORSEPOWER INCREASED ON THE BOOSTER PUMP, USING CLEANER WATER, PUT IN A FUGITIVE DUST SYSTEM (EXTRA FAN AND BLOWER), INSTALLED MORE NOZZLES AND MORE PACKING IN THE STACK, THAT THE OPERATION WAS MUCH IMPROVED OVER LAST YEAR. MR. CHASE QUESTIONED IF THIS WAS AS FAR AS IT COULD AND h. SCHULTZ ANSWERED THAT THEY ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR BE IMPROVED WITHOUT GOING INTO THE BAG COLLECTOR SYSTEM, PAGE 4 AUGUST 2, 1966 IMPROVED METHODS, THAT THEY CERTAINLY DON'T TRY TO BLAST It PEOPLE RIGHT OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD - WE WANT A GOOD RE- LATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE". I~R. LENTINI BROUGHT UP AN INCIDENCE WHEN DUST HAD BEEN PROFUSE BECAUSE OF A FAULTY PULLEY BUT THAT THE PLANP HAD CONTINUED OPERATION THE ENTIRE DAY WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF IMMEDIATELY, THAT IT WAS THE OPERATOR'S RESPONSIBILITY, THAT HE WAS UNABLE TO BE AT THE PLANT 8 HOURS A DAY. CEASED OPERATION AND ih. SCHULTZ AGREED THAT THIS SHOULD MR. BUEHLER EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE PLANT HAD NOT ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT ANYONE FOR ANOTHER LOCATION. HE POINTED OUT THAT THE PLANT HAS FROM JUNE OF THIS YEAR UNTIL APRIL OF NEXT TO MAKE SOME CONTACT OR OUTRIGHT PURCHASE. MAYOR GOTTFRIED REVIEWED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A NEW 1. THERE MUST BE A SUPPLY OF GRAVEL TO OPERATE THE PLANT. LOCATION: 2. IT SHOULD BE LOCATED AWAY FROM HABITED AREAS OF THE CITY TO ELIMINATE POSSIBLE OBJECTIONS FROM SURROUNDING RESIDENCES. 3. IT WOULD BE DESIRABLE FOR GRAVEL, INC., TO OWN THE LAND SO THAT THEY CAN MINE IT THEMSELVES, WHICH WILL GIVE THEM AM ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE. 4. THERE MUST BE ACCESS TO A MAJOR HIGHWAY. h. CHASE POINTED OUT THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE INDUSTRIAL AREA WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR RELOCATION OF THE ASPHALT PLANT - IN THE WEST PART OF THE CITY, NORTH OF HIWAY 24 WHERE STATE SAND g: GRAVEL AND WAUERS DUMP ARE LOCATED AS GRAVEL IN THE CITY OF MUSKEGO WILL BE LIMITED TO THAT AREA IN THE FOBESEEABLE FUTURE. ifR. BUEHLER QUESTIONED HOW THESE TWO OPERATIONS WERE CARRIED ON THE TAX ROLL, AS ONE OPERATION OR TWO, AS IT NOW APPEARS THAT GRAVEL, INC., OWNS THE EQUIPMENT AND IS LEASING THE MACHINERY TO ANOTHER PARTY, THAT THEY ARE 'ONE UNDER THE PEESENT STRUCTURE, THAT UP TO THIS TIME THE ACCESSORY USE COULD BE RELOCATED AND THE GRAVEL OPERATION CONTINUE. HE SUGGESTED THAT THE BOND AMD RESTORATIOW PROGRAM SHOULD TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. I~AYOR GOTTFRIED POINTED OUT THAT THE BOND UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS RELATED ONLY TO THE GRAVEL PIT AND NOT IN ANY WAY TO THE OPERATION OF AN ASPHALT PLANT. HE ADVISED THE CITY HAD RECEIVED THE RESTORATION PLANT BUT THAT THE COMMUNICATION FROM ATTORNEY JACK RADTKE ADVISING THAT THE BOND HAD NOT AS YET BEEN SUBMITTED, THAT HE HAD RECEIVED A BONDING COMPANY IS RELUCTANT TO ISSUE THE BOND DUE TO ADVERSE NEWSPAPER PUBLICITY THAT THE COMPANY MIGHT BE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS, THERE FOLLOWED SOME DISCUSSION OF THE BOND, BONDING PROCEDURES, COSTS, ZTC. PAGE 5 AUGUST 2, 1966 HAYOR GOTTFRIED DECLARED THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 0:26 P. M. ~ESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, BARBARA J. SANDS RECORDING SECRETARY 0-1 2-66