PCM19660621CITY PLAN COMMISSION - CITY OF MUSKEG0 - MINUTES OF MEETING HELD on
June 21, 1966 at the City Hall. * Chairman Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8:04 P.M.
UPON ROLE - Members present were Gottfried, Chase, Buehler, Bertram,
Dahlen, Lentini and Raiman. Also present were Gerald Lee and Planner
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Knetzger. Mr. Knetzger arrived at- 8:15 P.M.
MINUTES - Mr. Chase moved to defer action on the approval of minutes of
June 7, 1966 until the planner was present, motion seconded by Mr.
Lentini and it carried.
DONALD MARZEC - Mr. Marzec, W150 S7693 Dorothy Dr., Hales Corners, Wis.,
appeared seeking approval of the commission for swimming pool screen-
plot sketch showing all intended plantings, pool in relationship to
ing in accordance with Sec. 6.06 7-D. Mr. Marzec submitted a proposed
location of residence, etc. The pool shall be 4' deep, 21' in diameter
with sun deck, 4' high rough cedar fencing and plastic cover for pool.
HENRY PANKAU - Henry Pa.nkau of W190 S7602 Prospect Dr., Muskego, Wis.,
presented for approval a sketch of landscape treatment for his portable
basket weave type fence. Because of its portable nature they will take
4' pool, 15' in diameter, plastic cover for protection and an intended
the pool if they should ever move.
CARL WOJNOWSKI - Mr. Wojnowski of S75 W15002 Kathryn Dr., Muskego also
appeared seeking approval of a 4 x 21' pool. Since he did not submit a
planned sketch he explained his plans as follows. Prior to receipt
of letter from Insp. Lee he planned on erecting a fence on top for a
sun deck, treat the south lot line with shrubs. He further stated that
if he had to erect a fence he would move it closer to the garage and
family room. The chair explained that the commission was more con-
cerned about esthetic values as 6.06 7-D requires.
GERALD MATTKE - (Please refer to minutes of 6-7-66. Mr. Mattke did not
appear, the board thus referring to above minutes)
Motion was made by Mr. Dahlen that the Plan Commission accept the land
scaping proposals for the four swimming pools as submitted of the
following persons, Donald Marzec, Henry Pankau, Carl Wojnowski and
Gerald Mattke, motion seconded by Mr. Lentini, motion carried.
In discussing Sec. 6.06 (7) of the Zoning Ordinance the Plan Commission
took the following action. Mr. Dahlen moved, as seconded by Mr.
Buehler, that recommendation be made to the Common Council that Sec.
6.06 7-D be amended so as to insert the word "permanent" before the
word "Pool". Motion carried.
WALTER HEINRICH - Mr. Heinrich appeared with his surveyor, D. Polzin
seeking approval of preliminary plat. Mr. Heinrich wishes to divide
Commission was concerned about the 60' road easement as it is in its
2 acres from the farm itself thus creating an independent parcel. The
present location. Since the road is in the area of several farm build-
would not wish to move these buildings because of expense. The proposed
ings removal would be necessary someday. Mr. Heinrich stated that he
roadway was so located so 'as to follow the existing gravel roadway and
according to Mr. Polzin, someday when more land is divided the roadbed
could be relocated to the north. Until then the road would serve
existing buildings and the new building as an easement.
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Question arose as to why the two acre division did not abutt thejhake-
shore and Mr. Polzin stated that they did not wish to involve the
existing cottage and boathouse. The planner was concerned with the
narrow strip of land left in between the waters edge and the proposed
parcel. Mr. Lee's concern was that he could not issue a permit due to
his inability to determine whether they would comply to the zoning.
Planner Knetzger referred to Sec. 8.19 (7) D and 4.07 (4).
Mr. Buehler moved that tentative approval of Mr. Heinrich's preliminary
proposed 2 acres to a public road and presentation of further information
plot be granted subject to presentation of an easement for access by the
west of the division. Mr. Dahlen seconded the motion and the motion
on the exact location of the present property line along the lake shore,
carried.
CRONIN SOD FARM - Joseph Cronin of S103 W13991 Loomis Dr., Hales Corners,
Wis., appeared seeking approval of a pond, 325 x 230', which, according
to him, was created about 15 years ago and it is his intention to
utilize the reservoir of water for sod cultivation. The Plan Commission
advised him that proper drawings should be submitted and may be done
by top0 tracings which are available at the City Hall.
WILFRED POSBRIG - Mr. Posbrig Of W195 S10538 Racine Ave., submitted
a preliminary plat for a division of land in Sec. 32, measuring 330 x
250'. The plot would be located approximately 100 rods from John Posbrig
or immediately adjacent to the Keiser property.
Mr. Dahlen moved that the Commission acceDt the Dreliminarv plat Of
Wilfred Posbrig as presented, Mr. Bertram'seconded the motion and the
motlon carried.
LESLIE CONSTANTINEAU - The Certified Survey Map of Leslie Constantineau,
proposed division of two parcels on the SEk, Sec. 24. Refer to minutes
S94 W12772 Ryan Dr., Hales Corners, Wis., was presented. Said map
of 6-7-66. Mr. Dahlen moved that the Certified Survey Map as presented
by Leslie Constantineau be approved as submitted, Mr. Buehler seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
CHECKERWAY CHARTER COACH CO., INC. - Mr. David L. Snyder appeared in
behalf of the bus comoanv. The Recording Secretary read the following ._ communication directed to the Plan Commission and hated 6-20-66 as to-
the proposed site and operational plan:
Gentlemen:
for your approval of the following addition and changes to our operational
x 10 ft. overhead door in the front or south side of the garage with
site located at S83 W20702 Janesville Rd. Replace the present 12 ft.
two (2) 12 ft. x 12 ft. overhead doors and add two (2) 12' x 12' overhead
doors to the rear (north) side of building to make a drive thru garage.
Add a garage stall approximately 14 ft. wide by 40 ft. long to the
west side of our present garage with 12 ft. x 12 ft. doors on either
end to provide additional maintenance facilities. Properly surface and
use an area of approximately 20,000 sq. ft. directly north of and ad-
number previously authorized. This site is leased from the Muskego-
lacent to our existing site for the parking of buses in excess of 'the
Norway School District for this purpose.
The Checkerway Charter Coach Company, Inc., hereby makes application
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Very truly yours,
/s/ David L. Snyder for E. M.
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Mr. Snyder further explained that the parcel will be utilized to park the additional buses needed for the school district. The company
has had 30 buses in the past, but will extend their services to 50 and
all repairing done in the garage will be confined to their own buses.
Referral was made to previous. planting requirements set forth as part
of the Conditional Grant. Mr. Snyder stated that the screening had been
completed.
Mr. Dahlen moved that action be deferred on the approval of the Checkerway
Upon recommendation of the Planner the following action was taken:
Charter Coach Bus Lines operation and site plans as requested until the
next meeting to give the Building Inspector time to inspect the area
and report back to the Commission. Mr. Raimann seconded the motion and
the motion carried.
PAYNE E DOLAN OF WISCONSIN, INC. - Mr. William Bechthold of 1226 W.
Wisconsin Ave., Milwaukee, asked permission to operate a portable asphalt
plant in Sec. 18. Said accessory use permit would be to the extractive
operation of State Sand E Gravel, Inc. Mr. Bechthold stated that they
would need it for not more than 2 months, the plant would be located
down in the pit, the 4-ton plant is two years old producing 1% yards
perminute. The question was raised as to its proximity to Crowbar Rd.
and he answered - just east of the line. The request is the result of
The plant is portable - all on rubber and as soon as this contract is
a contract to supply material for the reconstruction of County Hiway F.
completed the plant will be moved north - into another county.
that an accessory use permit to the extractive operation of State Sand
Mr. Chase moved that recommendation be made to the Common Council
@ portable asphalt plant, said period of permit not to exceed September
E Gravel, Inc., be granted.to Payne E Dola~r.of..Wisconsin,?~nc.., for a
30, 1966. Mr. Lentini seconded the motion and the motion carried.
STATE SAND E GRAVEL, INC. - Mr. Chase moved that the Conditional Use
Grant for the purpose of an extractive operation for State Sand E Gravel,
Inc., Sec. 18, be approved as presented, said permit to be issued for
a period of one year. Mr. Lentini seconded the motion and the motion
carried.
TEXACO, INC. - In accordance with the Planner's report of 4-19-66, Texaco,
Inc., has resubmitted new plans for an automobile service station the
corner of Tess Corners Dr. and Hiway 24. Accordingly the following
motion was made bq Mr. Buehler - A public hearing be set for July 19,
Bertram and motion carried. The petitioner shall be notified that
1966, 8 P. M., in behalf of Texaco, Inc., motion seconded by Mr.
a new petition must be submitted.
JOHN SCHAEFER - The Recording Secretary read the report received from
Building Inspector Lee as follows:
on the channel near the Bass Bay Sportsman's Clubhouse. This dam is
An inspection was made on June 14, 1966, of the dam constructed
13" wide and 12' long, extending from bank to bank. The top of the dam
is 4%'' above the dam located at the south end of Big Muskego Lake.
It is 5" above the bottom of the culvert which crosses Durham Drive.
The dam is constructed of re-enforced concrete.
On June 17, 1966, water was being pumped at a rate of 1,000 gallons
per minute. On June 18, 1966, one of the representatives of the State
Conservation Dept. supervised the seining and removal of the fish which
had gotten into the pond during high water this past spring. There were
about 1,000 fish, none over 3" long, and one bullhead in the pond. Most
bluegills. There will be a screen constructed on top of the dam in order
to prevent any fish from getting into this pond when water is at a level
higher than that of the dam. There was estimated to be two feet of water
left in the pond and water from the ground level running into it came
through gravel veins at the 4' depth. Most of this water was coming
in from the east side of the pond and very little was coming from the
direction of the lake. Because this is dug in silty and loamy soil and
is underlain by sand the water is conducted through this sand from the
which are poor conductors of water.
east. The soil on the west side is of muck, silt and loam deposits,
This pond should capture many of the nutrients which, in the
past, have passed directly into the lake therefore making it more de-
sirable to have this basin surface water directed into the pond.
The total water area in Bass Bay and Big Muskego Lake totals 2,177 acres.
The Schaefer's holdings east of Durham Drive are about 50 acres.
In order to lower this lake 1/4", 11 inches of water must be used on
the entire 50 acres. This pond holds approximately 1,200,000 gallons of
water.
This dam, in effect, would hold surplus water in the pond during low
dicated another dam on the channel running parallel to Durham Drive.
water and would permit runoff into the pond during high water. According
of the present dam on a channel running to the lake would not be of any
to the Conservation Department representative, any dams or controls back
approval for this pond after installation of the screen above the dam
concern. The representative of the Conservation Department indicated
and a report would be forthcoming.
Mr. Schaefer stated that the ground would be leveled and trees
planted west of the pond as soon as a contractor was available with
equipment in this area. It would, however, be done this summer.
of the small fish were perch, and some chub suckers mixed with a few
I The plan that was submitted to the Plan Commission previously in-
/s/ Gerald P. Lee
Mr. Chase moved that in light of all prior action taken, that
approval be granted to John Schaefer for his reservoir and drainage channel
in Sec. 13 and 14, motion seconded by Mr. Buehler, motion carried.
COMMUNICATIONS
The clerk read the two communications received from Hales Corners
Sand and Gravel for extractive purposes, one being a renewal of a
Conditional Use Grant, on pt of the SEk, Section 12, (72.51 acres of
land more or less) and the other, shall a Conditional Use Grant be a-
warded to Hales Corners Sand and Gravel for extractive purposes , the
Ernst Bluhm property, Section 12 (20 acres more or less).
Mr. Chase moved, as seconded by Mr. Dahlen, that public hearings be
set in accordance with petitions submitted, for July 19, 1966, 7:OO PM,
(Bluhm Property) and July 19, 1966, 7:30 PM, Hales Corners Sand and
Gravel. Motion carried. 4 The Chairman informed the Board that a public hearing had been set in
behalf of H. Stefaniak, Section 21, August 9, 1966, 7:OO PM to rezone
land from RS-1 - RS-2, said hearing to be heard by Council.
commendation to the council on the action to grant or deny accessory
GRAVEL INC. - The chair reviewed for the commission procedure of re-
use permit of Gravel Inc., for the operation of a asphalt plant to
the extractive operation of said company.
Mr. Raiman requested that a little history be given regarding previous
meetings regarding the asphalt plant operation. He further explained
permits issued, etc. Mr. Buehler read excerpts of minutes of previous
that he had no objection to the extractive operation, but did feel
that due to the great impact on the adjacent residential community,
odors, smoke, and other objectionable factors that it did result in a
that the plant relocate in an industrial area. He stated that due to
nusiance and had adverse effect on property values. According to Mr.
Buehler the original permit was issued seven years ago and was issued
on the petitioners request that the plant was portable and would be
temporary in nature. Again, Mr. Buehler stated that he felt the plant
should be relocated. Mr. Bertram stated that even though he does not
live as close to the plant as Mr. Buehler did, he would disagree with
his statements. Mr. Raiman stated that if this was a temporary thing
he did not think this man should be permitted to expand. Mr. Buehler
moved that recommendation be made to the Common Council of the City of
Muskego that the Accessory Use Permit, for the operation of an asphalt
plant to the extractive operation of Gravel Inc., be denied for the
following reasons.
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"Any~.accessory use -or structure shall conform to the appli-
cable regulations of the district in which it is located
except as specifically otherwise provided."
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and Sec. 4.05 1-B
reason of noise, dust, ordor, appearance, or other object-
"No accessory use or structure shall be permitted that by
effect on the property value or reasonable enjoyment of the
ionable factor creates a nuisance or substantial adverse
surrounding properties."
The original permit was granted seven years ago and was is-
sued on the petitioners request that this plant was portable
and would be temporary in nature.
This plant be permitted to operate at this temporary location
until December 31, 1966 with the condition that this plant
be relocated in an Industrial area.
members voted in favor and two opposed.
Motion seconded by Mr. Raiman, motion carried. Upon roll call 5 (five)
The Planner then asked why do you not consider three more years, and
decision unreasonable. He stated that this move is not likened to the
moving of a grocery store and that the asphalt plant and extractive
Mr. Buehler said, "no" . Mr. Bertram again stated that he felt the
~ 'a a problem of obtaining the gravel. The chair pointed out the possibi-
operation go together and if the man is forced to move he would have
lity of this operation moving into the City of New Berlin and as in
the case of the recent annexation, thus losing two extractive sites,
the City of New Berlin becomes a disinterested party. He also cited
how the relocation of Hway 15 will harm Gravel Inc's operation. There
appeared to be some question as to the legal drafting of the commis-
sion's recommendation to the council.
FORREST PERKINS - On June 7, 1966 action to recommend to grant or deny
petitioner's request for rezoning two parcels in Section 4 was deferred
until 6/21/66. The pros and cons of developing the 10 acre parcel asL
petitioned was discussed by the commission. The Chair reminded the pN/,
Board of the importance of concern as to type of development. He also
asked the petitioner whether they would be willing to withdraw the re- r
quest to erect a filling station and Nr. Perkins said yes, but that he7-E.I/
would have to ask his other two partners. One Board member felt that
business development on this corner would be most compatable with the
grocery stores, drive-in and beer depot. Another member felt that
surrounding businesses, namely, a barber shop, filling station, two
this should not be rezoned until bonifide leases were ready so as to
ascertain type of development. Mr. Perkins mentioned that moving this
other member mentioned that they would rather see business buildings
station to another area, such as New Berlin, wBuld be no problem. An-
on this tract, rather than residential development which places a bur-
den on schools. Mr. € Mrs. John Victor were present and when asked
that perhaps developing a corner such as this would be better done under
8-2 Local Service Center, they answered "yes". One member suggested
planned development. Mr. Chase moved, as seconded by Mr. Lentini, that
recommendation be made to the Common Council that the request of Forrest
B-1 and the other RS-2 to RSM be approved. Motion not passed. Mr. Len-
Perkins for rezoning of two parcels of land in Section 4, one RS-2 to
tini moved, as seconded by Mr. Bertram, that recommedation be made to
the Council that action be initiated to rezone the 10 acres owned by
Mr. John Victor, from RS-2 to 8-2 Local Service Center plus the area
contained in the B-1 bounded by Martin and Topaz Drives, west to Coll-
ege and Gold Drive. Motion carried
Mr. Chase moved that the City Plan Commission enter into a contract
with Max E. Anderson Assoc., to make the preliminary study of urban re-
newal needs and necessary application thereof, fee not to exceed
$1,000.00. Motion seconded by Mr. Dahlen, motion carried.
Mr. Chase moved that the Plan Commission recommend to the Common Coun-
cil that the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Muskego be amended to in-
clude the "Official Conditional Grant Form", and as such be registered
in the Register of Deeds Office in Waukesha County, costs to be assumed
by the petitioner. Motion seconded by Mr. Buehler, motion carried.
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whether they would be susceptible to rezoning of the entire parcel to
said that a joint meeting to discuss amendment to the Sub-
Ordinance would be set up.
Upon a motion of Mr. Lentini, as seconded by Mr. D hlen the meeting
was adjourned at 11:45 PM.
Dated this 21st BETTE J. BOW R,
day of June 1966
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