PCM19650817PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MUSKEO '* MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AUGUST 17, 1965
CITY HALL
Mayor Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8:15 P. M.
PRESENT: Mayor Jerme Gottfried, Chairman; William F. Chase, Secfy;
Russell Knetzger, Consultant, and Gerald Lee, Building Inspector,
were also present.
ABSENT: John Meinhardt
MINUTES: Mr. Walrath moved to approve the minutes of August 3, 1965,
med. Mr. Chase seconded the motion and it carried.
of July 29, 1965, as mailed. Mr. Buehler seconded the motion and
it carried.
Bertram, Charles Buehler, Edmund Budish and Clarence Walrath.
Mr. Chase moved to approve the minutes of the special meeting
""-""" PERSONAL APPEBRANCES
ORLO ZLENSKY - (S9l W13253 Boxhorn Dr., Section 24, Request to fill
low land)
Mr. Orlo Zlensky appeared seeking approval of filling approximately
18 acres of low swamp area in Sec. 24 which holds approximately 5'
of water at all times. The Commission peviewed this property as pointed
is dredged.
would take approximately 5000 cubic yards per acre or 18.000 loads to
fill this land just 3' high.
up on the hills and Mr. Zlensky would get approximately the same
future development, a lagoon could be made and some of the lots platted
number of lots.
concrete, etc., and that a dumping operation might start and last for
Because the Commission feared that the fill might be broken
years in trying to fill thia large area, it was the Commissionfa
opinion to discourage a comercial filling of this low area. Mr.
Budish expressed concern that Wetlands in the City will disappear.
out on the Topographic Map by Mr. Zlensky. He advised that thia land
Mr. Buehler pointed out that according to his calculations, it
Planner Knetzger suggested that instead of filling the area for
DEL HINTZ - (Informal discussion of Land Division nnd Conditional
bse for Dog Kennel)
Mr. &-Mrs. Del Hintz, 964 W13896 Janesville Rd., appeared
along with Frank and Gertrude Schaeffer, W129 58642 Durham Dr., re-
dog kennel.
questing information as to procedure to follow for approval of a
in purchasing 5 acres from the Schaeffers in Section 11, entrance on
Woods Road, on which to locate a breeding and boarding kennel for the
purpose of raising Boxer dogs. They advised the Commission that they
on Janesville Rd., but were not equipped with runs. The new location
Mr. & Mrs. Hintz informed the Commission that they were interested
are presently raising and selling Boxers at their present location
1- a dings. Mrs. Hintz also mentioned the possibility of a Pet Cemetery
would have 20 runs and there would be fencing and brick and block buil-
should she acquire additional land at a futnre time, but the Commission
advised that this would have to be discussed at great length by the
governing body of the City.
strial) thus permitting operation of kennels.
mission if they are desirous of selling acres to the Hintzs. The
Schaeffers to get approval. for the land division from the Plan Com-
next step would be for Mr. & Mrs. Hintz to submit a petition to the
Commission for a conditional use for the kennel.
The Commission noted that the zoning for this area was 1-1 (Indu-
Mayor Gottfried advised that the first step would be for the
STATE SAND & GRAVEL - (Sec. 18)
Surveyor Don Polzin and Bill Retzlaff appeared and presented
revised restoration plans for the Commissionts review. Because of the
perimeter, 100' from the edge of the R.O.W. According to Mr. Polein
relocation of Crowbar Road, there would now be a 5 to 1 slope around the
when the area would be restored, it would be suitable for a site plan
or park and as it is in industrial zoning would not be used for a
residential area. He also suggested that the area would be a good
Mr. Retzlaff, in answer to questions from the Commission, advised that
buffer, Vernon being zoned industrial but having residential area also.
this restoration would come about in 5 to 6 years, that depth of water
in the lake was approximately 801 and that additional crushers may be
needed but they are portable rather than stationery. Mr. Polzin stated
Mr. Budlsh moved to approve the corrected plan of restoration that he would prepare an entire set of maps for the City.
for State Sand & Gravel subject to the approval of the City Engineer.
Mr. Walrath seconded the motion and it carried.
Mr. Polzin advised the Commission that there were plans being made for
would involve about 4 acres, 50 yards of concrete and $15,000, and that
the construction of a 300' radio tower, low frequency and UHF, which
he would advise a gentleman from GE to appear at the next Plan Commission
meeting to work out the details.
HAROLD DE BACK -(Division of Land, Sec. 32)
division of 4 lots along Highway Y in the SET of Section 32 of hie
property. He advised the Commission that he was most interested in
had advised that it would be economical to plot all 4 lots at one
the one lot just north of his present dwellings, but that the Surveyor
time. His intent is to build a home for himself on this lot.
Highway Y, perhaps it would be feasible to plan a cul de sac road,
providing only one access point on Hiway Y, with the lots lying off of
this road rather than spreading them out along Highway Y.
Mayor Gottfried advised that he would be meeting with the State
Highway Commission this Thuraday and would check into limited access
for this County Wunk Hiway and also if the County Hiway Dept. would approve division of land which would require aCCeSSeS.
lot lying directly North of the present dwellings with the condition
that the final plat show temporary access only to Racine Ave. Mr.
Bertram seconded the motion and it carried.
Mr. DeBack appeared and presented a Pre+iminary Plat showing the
Planner Knetzger advised that because of the limited access on
e Mr. Walrath moved to approve the Preliminary Plat for a single
a JACK OLOCKNER - (Junking & Extractive Operations, Sec. 12)
Mayor Gottfried advised that he had requested Mr. Glockner to
submit a site plan of operation to the Plan Commission before they
would make recommendation to the Common Council as to renewal of
his license.
SOIL SURVEY MAP - Mayor Gottfried advised that the Soil Survey Map
has been ordered.
MUSKEG0 ASPFIALT PLANT - Mr. Buehler questioned Resolution #81 which
showed the recornendation of the Planninn Commission to renew the
permit for one year. The motion from the Planning Commission minutes
of June 15, 1965, uas read and Mr. Buehler stated that he could not
see how this could be misconstrued to mean that the permit be continued
newspaper stating that the Plan Commission had recommended renewal
for one more year. He also presented an article from the Freeman
of the permit for one year.
because of the wording "until the conclusion of this years operation"
he had inte reted it to mean the 1965-66 period. He advised that the
Resolution # 7 1 was more restrictive and allowed operation only until
October, 1965. He further advised that he would inform the Common
Council of the error in Resolution #81 if the Commission so desired.
Mayor Ctottfried advised that he had drafted the Resolution and
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SUBDIVISION CONTROL ORDINANCE - Planner Knetzger presented the
following recommended changes in the Subdivision Control Ordinance: - 1. Percolation Testa - Planner Knetzger advised that the present
procedure was unsatisfactory and perhaps the Greenfield Ordinance,
which had been submitted by Alderman Wolf, should be considered.
fee charged. Soil suitability reading would be a possibility, but
Greenfield percolation tests are under City jurisdiction and a $35.00
before this can be adopted, the present Ordimnoe would have to be
examined by the Attorney to determine the possibility of requiring
soil tests. The present Ordinance does not ask for percolation tests
until submission of the Preliminary Plat and Planner Knetzger suggested
that percolation tests be submitted earlier, perhaps with the "Sketch".
The Commission discussed this recommendation and felt that because
percolation tests were not reliable, in good weather - good tests, and
in bad weather - bad tests, and that there was no language in the
Ordinance as to under what w'eather conditions the testa should be
taken, the City should not be held responsible for the tests.
2. Division of Land - Planner Knetzger advised that there should be
controls for drainage and cited examples from the Greendale drainage
procedures in establishing grades at all 4 corners of a lot.
Committee would study this situation at their meeting Thursday night.
the approval of the lot drainage could go through the City Engineerls
office or the Planner's office. He further advised that Nelson & Assoc. 0 interprets as the basement floor that portion of the Ordinance stating
that the lowest floor of a building must be 31 above the lowest water
table. Building Inspector Lee has interpreted this as the first floor
of living space. It was the opinion of the Commission that the Ordinance
should be more clear on this.
Mayor Gottfried adviaed that the Rmles; Laws & Ordinances
Planner Knetzger advised that if drainage procedures were adopted,
e pavements and possibly storm sewers of the subdivision was discussed.
3. Long Term Maintenance which would inolude the cost of drainage,
Planner Knetzger recommended that the City be very careful in plan-
ning any storm sewers as this can be a never-ending project.
the metropolitan area to investigate their drainage ditches, etc.
Planner Knetzger suggested that a field trip be taken around
He advised that he would be available Saturday or Sunday if so desired
plans for the trip.
by the Commission. Mayor Gottfried advised that he will work out the
4. Street Trees - Planner Knetzger advised that if trees are planted
at the time of the subdivision improvement along the street, within
15 years there would be attractive tree-lined avenues.
Mayor Qottfried advised that the Commission would appreciate Planner
Knetzger putting recommendations from Nelson dc Assoc. in writing for
distribution among the Commission members.
CHANGE OF ELUFIC SYSTEM OF COMPRGHEPISIVE PLAN - The Commission
reviewed the Comurehensive Plan maD and the Hlahwav Aoceas Nan. ~~ ~~~ -~~~~" ~~. . "_ _"
Mr. Chase siggested that the major oollector streets be &own
Planner Knetzger suggested that the Highway Access Map be
on the map and included in the Comprehensive Plan.
included in the Comprehensive Plan. He advised that because of the size
of the map, he would get an estimate on oost of having the map shrunk.
The following Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan was presented
to the members for consideration: a AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Waukesha County Wisconsin, that the Comprehensive Plan for Development
Be it hereby resolved by the Plan Commission of the City of Muskego,
pursuant to Section g2.23 (3)b of the Wisconsin Statutes, ie hereby
of the City of Muske o adopted by this Commission Junas 24, 1963,
amended in the folloning respectst
1. North 124th Street proposed to be located on the easterly boundary
of the Cit , previously planned in Sections 12 and 13 to run parallel to,
but up to i 00 feet nesterly of the City boundary, is now planned to run directly on the easterly boundary of the City, from STII 24, in the
Village of Hales Corners, to CTEI-00.
2. A new proposed parkway road in Section 10 has been added to the
point 1000 feet north of the Woods Road on a parkway road.previously
Recommended Traffic Artery System Plan, said parkway to run from a
adopted, northwesterly to a point on STH 24 directly east of the inter-
section of STH 24 and Bay Lane by about 250 feet measured on center-
STH 24 about 000 to 1000 feet east of Bay Lana, is hereby amended to
lines; the parkway previously planned to connect Martin Drive with
intersect STH 24 in line with the above new parkway road.
3. Extension of Sunny Slope Ro ad from CTH HH (College Averme) in Section 2 to STH 24 to intersect directly with the previously adopted
location of the parkway extending south to Tess Cornere Drive and beyond.
(See the Map filed herewith.)
4. Extension of Lannon Drive (Calhoun Road in northerly munioipalities)
from Martin Drive to CTH HH (College Avenueb (See Map filed herewith.)
5. Extension of Moorland Road, from the Small Road in New Berlin, south
to sm 24. ~~ -"""""
ADJOURNMENT - Mr. Budish moved for adjourment, Mr. Buehler seconded
the motion and the meeting was adjourned at ll:35 P. M.
Respectfilly submitted,
Barbara J. Sands
Recording Secretary