PCM19650302?dinutes of the City of M~skego Planning Commission meeting held on March 2, 1965,
8:OO P.H.9 nith members Gottfried, Buehler, Budish, Walxath, Meinhardt & Planner
fhetzger present.
Minutes of the Bebruary 16, 1965, meeting were approved.
March 23rd at the City Hall beginning at 7:OO P.M. for the follaning rezoning
Chairman Gottfried advised the commission that a public hearing would be held
petitions - Robert Gebhardt &Alvin C. Basse property; bkrtin P. Mayer &Rose
Enterprise, Inc. property; Leslie Mayer property; and Duane Whitehouse property. ?k. Mlle Peters appeared seeking division of land in Section 33. He presented
sketches of the proposed division, an area bordering North of Muskego Dam Road,
on which he desires to build a home with less than the floor area required for
E-1 District. The commission advised Mr. Peters that any reduction of the
Board of Appeals. &. Peters will have the area surveyed ad it was suggested
required square foot area for a home must hwapproved by the City of ?duskego
by Planner Knetzger that he also get a percolation check of the area. A motion
nas made by Mr. Walrath, as seconded by Mr. Budish, that Mr. Peters be given
iniormal approval of his request for division of land. Motion carried.
Planner Knetzger reviewed the YJuties and Powers of the Plan Comission,
Wisconsin Statutes 62.2311, gave a brief history of Nelson & Associates, and dis-
cussed the General Plan for Community Development for the City of kskego as shown
1~1 the long range plan and as to what has been accomplished toward this goal.
Planner Knetzger gave the follcming outline:
1951r-1958 - First Administration - County Planning
1956 - Tm of Muskego toning and subdivision control
1959 - Hired Nelson & Associates
1959 - llRecormaisance Studyt1
1960 - Land use and economic base study
1961 - YSketch Plan"
1962 - General Plan Report
1962 - Public hearing on General Plan report
1962 - Zoning Draft
1962 - Capitol Budget - 'IAdministrative Structure and Finance including Capital
1963 - Adopted Zoning Ordinance
1963 - June 2h - Adoption of the General Plan
196h - Road Width Map
Motion to adjourn was made by kc. Budish, seconded by Mr. Meinhardt. Motion
carried in d meeting mas adjourned at 10:3O P.M.
Improvement Program and Budget 1962 - 196711
Respectfully bmitted,
Barbara Sands
Recording Secretary
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Minutes of the regular bi-monthly meeting of the Planning COLI+
mission held on March 16, 1965, mith members Gottfried, Chase,
Buehler, Bertram, Budish, Walrath and MeIeinhardt present. In-
spector Lee was also present.
Uutes of the previous meeting were approved as mailed.
Correspondence from Arthur Manke, Sec., County Hiway Gomission,
regarding relocation of Hiway Y nas read by the recording
secretary.
Hales Corners Sand & Gravel diagrams of restoration procedure
were reviewed by the Conmission and correspondence outlin%g
same was read by the recording secretary.
A map of PrankUn's kster Plan uas reviemd by the Commission.
Mayor Guttfried will get in touch &th Franklin's mayor and
members to discuss same.
arrange a tentative meeting date with theh Planning Commission
&I-. Chase brought up the matter of problems arising because
of improper drainage conditions in the City. It mas suggested
by !dayor Gottfried that Greendale be contacted as to what
procedures they have used to solve similar problems.
Motion to adjourn was made by &. Budish, seconded by &.
Meinhardt. Motion was cadd and meeting xas adjourned at a:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Barbara Sands
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF MUSKEG0
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD APRIL 6, 1965, 8:40 P.M.
PRESENT: Mayor Jerome Gottfried, Chairman; William F. Chase, Sec'y;
John Meinhardt, Willard Bertram, Charles Buehler, Clarence C. Walrath
and Edmund A. Budish.
Also present were Russ Knetzger, Consultant, and Gerald Lee, Building
Inspector.
The meeting was called to order at 8:40 P.M. by Chairman Gottfried.
MINUTES of the previous meeting (March 16, 1965;) were approved as
amended with the following addition:
Mr. Budish moved, as seconded by Mr. Walrath, to approve
the request for division of land of Orville Peters subject
to the presentation to the Commission of a corrected
certified survey map. Motion carried.
HEARINGS for Duane Whitehouse, Mayer & Rose, and Gebhardt & Basse
held on March 23, 1965, were reviewed by Chairman Gottfried.
Correspondence from Attorney Gyrus Shabaz was read by the Recording
Secretary in regard to the rezoning of the Mayer - Rose property.
0 DUANE WHITEHOUSE - Mr. Chase moved, as seconded by Mr. Walrath,
that the Planning Commission recommend to the Common Council of
the City of Muskego that the ammendment to the zoning map be made
providing overlay of OA Agriculture District to the area described
as Pt NWT, Sec. 7, approximately 17 .Ob acres, W219 ST436 Crowbar Rd.
Motion carried.
Mr. Chase made a motion, seconded by Mr. Buehler, that a hearing
be held May 18, 1965, to consider the conditional use operation of
a kennel as applied for by Mr. Duane Whitehouse. Motion carried.
Notice of hearing to be published in the official newspaper was
Orma Walrath for publication.
drafted by Mr. Chase and Planner Knetzger and given to Reporter
have the following information available at the hearing.
The secretary was directed to advise Mr. Whitehouse that he should
Number of dogs he intends to house?
Number of pens intended?
General appearance of the kennel?
General plan of operation?
Size of buildings?
Shrubbery & planting?
The Commission discussed a time limit for kennel operation but felt
it could be indefinite as long as ownership did not change.
It was noted by the Commission that Mr. Whitehouse stated very clear15
9 kennel.
MAYER & ROSE PROPERTY - It was the opinion of the Commission that
because of the size of the Martin P. Mayer parcel and location
ness purposes and rezoning should not be considered until such time
(next to firehouse) there would be inadequate parking area for busi-
as this parcel becomes evolved with adjacent land.
Mr. Chase moved, as seconded by Mr. Budish, to withdraw the Planning
Commission petition to rezono-that portion of land in Section 9
known as the Martin P. Mayer and Rose Enterprise, Inc., property
from R-3 Residential with OLR Lakeshore Recreation OV to B-3
General Business with OLR Lake Shore Recreation Overlay. Motion
carried.
Planner Khatzger will draft letters to Mayer & Rose advising same.
LESLIE MEYER PROPERTY - Motion made by Mr. Budish, as seconded by
Mr. Chase, that the Planning Commission recommend to the Common
00s - Office and Special Service, Sec. 25, be granted in accord
Council of the City of Muskego that Leslie Meyer's request for
with said petition. Motion carried.
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GEBHARDT & BASSE - Planner Knetzger advised the Commission that
Nelson & Associates did not feel that they could give a fair recom- .,, , , fi / .'A
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mendation in this instance as they have been hired as consultants
Knetzger gave the names of three firms he would recommend.
Mr. Chase moved, as seconded by Mr. Walrath, that the Planning
Commission petition the Common. Council to provide the Commission
particular zoning case. Discussion followed and it was felt by
with the services of another independent consultant on this
property. The Commission desired to turn down the recommendation
the Commission that they could render a fair judgement on this
of its Planning Consultant to hire another consultant in this matter
and the motion was withdrawn.
Mr. Chase moved that the petition to rezone that portion of land
in Sec. 10 known as the Wm. Basse Farm, from RS-2 to B-4 Highway
Business, be denied but that a petition to rezone same to an Overlay
Plan Developement would be received favorably by the Planning
Mr. Budish abstained from voting.
Commission. Mr. Meinhardt seconded and the motion was carried.
FUTURE ROAD EXTENSION - Planner Knetzger presented large scale
maps showing recommendations for the proposed North - South roadways
of Sunny Slope, Moorland & Calhoun. He noted that the Highway Dept.
would be out sometime during the year to show the Commission their
total plan.
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for the future shopping center on Lannon and Hiway 24. Planner .
1) Mr. Budish moved, as seconded by Mr. Walrath, that the Planning
Highway Commission to discuss the possible roadways. Motion
Commission authorize Planner Knetzger to take the maps to the
carried.
WILLIAM L. SCHUBEL - Mr. Buehler moved to set hearing for May 18,
1965, 7:45 P.M., for request of Wm. L. Schubel for expansion of
conditional grant for tavern addition, NWa, See. 5. Mr. Meinhardt
seconded and motion carried.
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO ZONING ORDINANCE were given to Planner
Knetzger for review and recommendation.
Mr. Chase suggested indexing the minutes.
The secretary was instructed to send to each of the members a
copy of Petition for Zoning Change, Petition for Conditional Use
Grant, Checklist for Approval of Building, etc., and Land
Division Procedure for review and suggestions for improval.
Planner Knetzger will make arrangements for the Planning Commission
to meet with Greendale's Planning Commission to discuss their
drainage and grading procedures.
Arrangements will also be made by Planner Knetzger to meet with
Franklin's Planning Commission to discuss their Master Plan.
The meeting was declared adjourned at 12 midnight.
Respectfully submitted,
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Barbara Sands
Recording Secretary
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MR. THEODORE FADROY, CHAIRPIAN
781 1 W. RYAN RD., FRANKLIN, WISCONSIN
DEAR MR. FADROW:
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CITY OF FRANKLIN &AN COPINISSION
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THE MUSKEG OF APRIL 5,
1965, INSTRUCTED NE TO WRITE T.0 TH PLA~N COHPIIU~'-
ION WITH REGARD TO THE' SCHEDULING BETWEEN QUR
TWO COHHISSIONS AND PLANNING CON UP@&& PLA'NN-
ING PROBLENS ALONG OUR #ORDERS? %,: & ..
WE HAD CONSIDERED SV LIER bA8T YEAR, BVT .36-~'
ORNAL CONTACT WITH YOWR DICA,TED THAT IT UOUOB
LI%rNARY LAND USE PLAN SF OW HAVO~&&:
SONE PRBLININARY PLANS, 0 PR IA TE "TINE
TO CONFER HAD C ING TUESDA~ PYENSNC APRIL 209
1965 AT 9:30 P.M. I8LE NEBTfNG
BETTER IF US WAITED VN s HA^ REACHED THE PR~ .
DATE. IF THIS PLEASE CON-
TACT PIP AT so 2 BIBLE DATES.
SINCE'R~FL~, ..
WILLIAN CHASE, SECRETARY MVSKEGO PLAN COHKISSION
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Aprll 12, 1965
Miro Barbara Gands , Recording Sommry
Murkego City Plan Commlrrlon
Box 34
MIMkOW, WL.OOMln
Dear Barbara 8
I have revlewsd the mlnuter of the Phnning Commlrrlon for Aprll 6, 1965
regardlng the Gebhardt d Baaso re-zoning matter, and note that I am Quoted
as raying our flrm did not far1 we could give a falr recommandatlon in this
instance slnco we have been hlred as conrultants for the future 6hopplng
center on lamon end 8TH 24. a- I wiah to offlclally note that it was not % who felt we could not give a falr
recommendatlon, but rathor that wo lrad heard lnfonally that some memhrr
of the community and one or two members of the Common Councll felt we
mlght be biased. Therefore, to completely char the alr I brought the mat-
ter to the Conmlsslon'a athntlon lndicatlng that once anyone raiser such
an lrrue we prefer that another consultant be ratelned for that project.
In order that the Common Councll mlght be aware of our true feollnqa on
thir matter, I would appreclate It lf thio letter were forwarded to the Councll
wlth the offlclal copy of the Plan Commisslon'r rnlrutor at the next Councll
mutlnq .
Sincerely,
NEISON d ASSOCIATES
Russell Knetrqrr
RK zcg
oc: Mayor Jerome I. Gottfrlcd
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CITY OF MUSKEGO
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD APRIL 20, 1965, 8:OO P.M., CITY HALL
PRESENT: Mayor Jerome Gottfried, Chairman; William F. Chase, Sec'y;
Charles Buehler, Clarence C. Walrath and Edmund A. Budish. Also
present wemRuss Knetzger, Consultant, and Gerald Lee, Bldg. In-
spec tor.
MINUTES of the meeting held April 6, 1965, were corrected as follows:
Letter from Nelson & Associates self-explanatory:
Dated April 12, 1965
Miss Barbara Sands, Recording Secretary
Box 34 Muskego City Plan Commission
Muskego, Wi s.
Dear Barbara :
1965, regarding the Gebhardt & Basse re-zoning matter, and note
I have reviewed the minutes of the Planning Commission for April 6,
that I am quoted as saying our firm did not feel we could give a
fair recommendation in this instance since we have been hired as
consultants for the future shopping center on Lannon and STH 24.
I wish to officially note that it was not we who felt we could not
give a fair recommendation, but rather thatwe had heard informally
that some members of the community and one or two members of the
Common Council felt we might be biased, Therefore, to completely
clear the air I brought the matter to the Commission!s attention
another consultant be retained for that project.
indicating that once anyone raises such an issue we prefer that
In order that the Common Council might be aware of our true feelings
on this matter, I would appreciate it if this letter were forwarded
to the Council with the official copy of the Plan Comission!.s minutes
at the next Council meeting.
Sincerely,
NELSON & ASSOCIATES
(s) Russell Knetzger
Russell Knetzger
Correction of sentence in last paragraph regarding Duane Whitehouse: "It was noted by the Commission that Mr. Whitehouse stated very
would not be a boarding kennel".
clearly at the Planning Commission meeting Feb. 16, 1965, that this
Fifth paragraph on last page to read as follows: "Planner Knetzger
will obtain information from Greenda1e.e Milwaukee Community Develop-- '* ment Co. as to their drainage and grading procedures."
LEON BOURDO -Mr. Leon Bourdo appeared before the Commission in re-
gard to his property located at the SW corner of Kelsey & Crowbar
in Sec. 31. Mr. Bourdo presented the Abstracts of Title and
Plat of Survey to the Commission for review. The 8 acres had
been divided into 1 acre lots and Lot #2 had been sold. As this
division of land had not been recorded to make a legal deed, the
Commission felt that this matter should be referred to the City
Attorney.
Mr. Budish moved, as seconded by Mr. Chase, that the matter of
division of land of Mr. Leon Bourdo be referred to City Attorney
Hippenmeyer. Motion carried.
NORTH-SQUTH BYPASS - Planner Knetzger presented large scale maps
of DroDosed roadways. He uointed out in Darticular Calhoun Road
as it would run from Highway 15 to Highway 24. Planner Knetzger
also presented the Southeastern Wis. Regional Planning Commission
map of Existing Land Use and map of Arterial Streets and Highways.
MEETING WITH FRANKLIN - Secretary Chase informed the Commission
Tuesday evening to discuss their Master Plan. As this was agree-
that a meeting with Franklin could be arranged on a Monday or
able with the Commission, Secretary Chase will make the necessary
arrangements.
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GREENDALE DRAINAGE PROCEDURES - Planner Knetzger cited the problems
that Greendale had encountered as concerned drainaize. Copies of
their ordinance in regard to same will be made by Flamer- Knetzger
and presented to the Commission members for their review.
LESLIE MEYER PROPERTY - It was noted by the Commission that the
overlav zoning had been auvroved bv the Council. Corresvondence
from &. Meye; was read byMayor Gottfried and sketch of-his pro-
perty was reviewed by the Commission.
Mr. Budish moved, as seconded by Mr. Walrath, to approve the
building site and operational plan of the Meyer request as des-
cribed in his letter of April 10, 1965. Motion carried.
MAYER - ROSE PROPERTY - Council Resolution #44 concerning further
study and report of the Mayer-Rose Property by the Planning Commission
was read by Sec:iy Chase. Letter from Sec!y Chase to Mrs. Martin-P.
was instructed to attaeh a copy of same to the minutes with a Mayer was read by the Recording Secretary. The Recording Secretary
felt that no action in this matter was necessary unless Mrs. Mayer
corrected date of Tuesday night, April 6, 1965. The Commission
presented a petition.
February 16, 1965, as regarded road location correction of Tenngson
TENNYSON LANE - Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of
Lane were read by the Recording Secretary. Petition signed by the
land owners was read by Mayor Gottfried.
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Mr. Buehler moved, as seconded by Mr. Budish, to approve the va-
cating of the land and accept the revised location of Tennyson
Lane as indicated on the Certified Survey map prepared by Wilbert
Stambaugh, Jr., dated February 16, 1965, and the petition of the
owners of the roads abutting that portion of Tennyson Lane- dated
this 13th day of April, 1965, and that this recommendation be
transmitted to the Common Council. Motion carried.
Discussion was held relative to the action of the Common Council
regarding the Basse - Gebhardt zoning request. Mr. Chase asked
explained by Planner Knetzger that the Common Council has the final
the question of who actually approves zoning amendments. It was
has jurisdiction in all cases of conditional use other than
say on all zoning matters; however, that the Planning Commission
extractive operations. There was some concern over the fact that
relative to zoning request within a single night. It was thought
the Common Council could nullify many hours of study and discussion
that part of the problem was lack of communication between the two.
It was suggested by the Commission that minutes of the Planning
Commission meeting be sent to the Council members and that the
Council minutes be sent to the Planning Commission to alleviate
this problem.
AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE - Planner Knetzger reviewed
the amendments to the zoning ordinance as prepared by Attorney
Hippenmeyer. Mr. Budish moved, as seconded by Mr. Walrath, that
the Commission authorize Nelson & Associates to contact Attorney
ordinance. Motion carried.
The meeting was declared adjourned at lO:jO P.M.
Hippenmeyer and confer on the proposed amendments to the zoning
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Sands
Recording Secretary