Public Works Committee - MINUTES - 8/24/1998
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING - CITY OF MUSKEGO Approved
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD THURSDAY, August 24, 1998
The meeting was called to order at 7:04 P.M. by Chairman Pionek. Committee members Ald. Kathy
Chiaverotti and Ald. Nancy Salentine were present. Also present were Ald. Mark Slocomb, Public
Works Supt. John Loughney, Mike Campbell and Rich Eberhardt (Ruekert & Mielke), Christopher
Zoppa, Engineer/Building Inspection Director and those per the attached list.
Ald. Pionek noted that the meeting was posted in accordance with the Open Meeting Law on August
20, 1998.
STATUS OF PROJECTS - The following items were reported on:
Freedom Square Drainage - R&M talked with the engineers of the library project. The study from
Rust was forwarded to Durant Architects for inclusion on their plan.
Deer Creek Subdivision - Nothing new to report. See New Business #1 for discussion of grading for
lots 30, 31 and 32.
Muskego Theater - During excavation, the landfill was hit. No hazardous materials only building
material. Additionally, at a past meeting, the property owner adjacent to the theater (Mrs. Thomas)
was asked to provide revised grading plans that were compatible to the theaters. The Committee
requests that a letter from the Office of the Mayor request Mrs. Thomas to provide this revised plan.
A discussion was held as to the status of the right turn lane onto Tans Drive and the Committee
requests that the Plan Director contact the property owner to ask for revised plans addressing the
turn lane onto Tans Drive and to provide the Committee with an updated report for their September
meeting.
Moorland Road-South Extension - The extension of Moorland Road South from Janesville Road to
Woods Road was discussed. Ald. Slocomb provided a brief background on his activities regarding
the curves and speed limit on the roadway. Rich Eberhardt provided a history on how the C-4A
design was arrived at and the 1,000 foot turning radius size. In past meetings a proposal was made
to create an exact legal description of the road to determine the center line. This has not been done.
The Mayor, at a prior meeting placed the responsibility of the centerline determination with the future
developers of the road. Ald. Slocomb questioned SEWRPC’s County Road designation for this
stretch of road. How does the City become involved in the changing of the status from Country to
City? R&M indicated that a protest would have to be filed on behalf of the City to request the
change of status. If this road is to become a true north/south route, the road, as designed would
pass next to a subdivision and will create numerous noise problems with the residents in the area. If
the County continues to state that they are not interested in this road, and the City constructs the
road, can, at a future date the County reclaim the road as a County road. The Committee requests
that the City Attorney review this particular issue and report back to the Committee. The Committee
requests that the letter directing the City Attorney to perform this task come from the Office of the
Mayor. Ald. Salentine moved to defer until an opinion from the City Attorney has been
obtained. Ald. Chiaverotti seconded. Carried by all. Ald. Pionek continued the discussion and
determined that in order for this project to proceed, the Committee will need to know the following
unknowns; number of lanes, location of road, speed, turning radius and ownership of the road.
1998 Road Program - John Loughney reports that only two major roads are left to be paved for this
year. The Industrial Park and Lions Park Drive require his staff’s attention. A few minor areas need
to be addressed.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Discuss Urban/rural Drainage - John reports that he and his staff are extremely busy.
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Status of projects - Big Muskego Lake - Stripes have been painted at the launch site on Durham
Drive. Residents have complained about the configuration of the stalls (6 stalls). John indicated that
it was done to specifications. Auxiliary lot grading is to be performed.
Status of Reconstruction of STH 36 - the Jurisdiction Transfer was not received with revisions
requested from the City.
Further review of proposed turn lanes - Muskego Norway School - Nothing to report.
Further review of Right-of- Way Maintenance Ordinance -The League of Wisconsin Municipalities
was present to voice objections at a hearing August 10, 1998 at the Public Safety Commission. The
outcome of that hearing is not known.
Further discussion on recommendation to Council to adopt SEWRPC’s Regional Transportation
System Plan for 2020 - Copies of the plan were received, however, the wrong booklets were sent to
the City. New copies have been requested for the Aldermen to review.
Status of Public Works Committee procedures and policies - The Committee requires additional time
to research the packet of information provided. Multiple policies exist for the same issues.
Further review road access - Rindfleisch property (#2191.001 & .002) - David Rindfleisch was on
hand to discuss his situation. The resident owns lots 001 & 002. The subdivision plan was reviewed
and found that lot 001 does conform to a buildable lot description. The road access point (Field
Drive) is requested to be changed to Hillendale Drive for lot .001. Discussion by the Committee
regarding the exact location of the driveway access point on Hillendale. Due to safety concerns, Mr.
Rindfleisch was directed to place his access at the most southwest location on the lot. Ald.
Chiaverotti moved to approve access to Hillendale Drive for a driveway on lot #1, Hillendale
Heights 10 feet from the southwest property line. Seconded by Ald. Salentine. Carried by all.
Resident requests a copy of these approved minutes to be sent to his home at S75 W20022 Ridge
Road.
At this time, Ald. Pionek removed himself from this meeting for this agenda item, due to conflict of
interest. Ald. Salentine assumed the Chair position for this item.
Further review of grading and erosion control plans - Avion Estates - Letters from R&M were sent
out on July 15, 1998 and August 21, 1998. R&M has met with the design engineers from the Avion
Estates project. Storm water issues were still a concern for the developer. Due to the fact that the
developer’s engineer does not have the computer software capabilities to calculate the 100 year
event with 2 year release rate calculations, the developer requested R&M to provided a proposal to
complete this portion of the project, on behalf of the design firm. The cost for this service would be
approximately $2,600 - $3,000. Discussion regarding the use of “neighborhood” detention pond
facilities for handling the runoff or the use of a “regional” basin. The Committee and the Storm
Water Advisory Committee is in favor of a regional basin. Ald. Slocomb stated that he is concerned
if R&M performed this task, who would “check” their work? Additional discussion on the discharge of
sump pump water to the roadway from the front of the lots was discussed and City Ordinance 16.20
was referenced which stated that clear sump pump water could be discharged to the roadway if
storm sewer is not available. Due to the revised and updated plans not being completed, Ald.
Salentine moved to defer this item until the developer provided to the Committee
updated/revised plans, storm water calculations and addresses the items in the July 15 and
August 21, 1998 correspondence, primarily the scope for storm water calculations. Seconded
by Ald. Chiaverotti. Vote 2-0 with Ald. Pionek abstaining. Motion carried.
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Further discussion of construction of salt shed for 1998/99 - Ald. Pionek had provided John
Loughney with concrete block structure costs for a salt shed using the 2,800 pounds of salt requiring
to be stored. John informed the group that the shed will only need to accommodate 2,000 pounds.
Ald. Pionek will provide John with revised structure pricing. If necessary, the Committee will conduct
a special meeting in order to ensure that a structure is available when the salt arrives.
Further discussion of 1999 Budget Issues - John Loughney requested direction from this Committee
regarding a number of financial/personnel related issues. John questioned feelings of this
Committee on the idea of additional staff/equipment for an ever-increasing workload or should
monies be set aside to utilize outside contractors to perform certain tasks? John reported to the
Committee his findings. If he purchases an additional ditching machine and 3-4 additional
employees, how will he be able to keep them busy during the winter? The rental of a ditching
machine would cost $6,500 per month. Hiring an outside contractor to perform the job would cost
$135.00 per hour. John has proposed that add $26,000 in his budget for 3 part time employees
(summer) at $9.00 per hour and rent the ditching machine for $6,500 per month for May, June, July
and August. Ald. Salentine moved to recommend and approve John Loughney’s budget
proposal. Seconded by Ald. Chiaverotti. Carried by all.
NEW BUSINESS
Discussion of grading for lots 30, 31 & 32 - Deer Creek Subdivision - Residents David Miller (lot #31)
and Don and Nancy Klein (lot #30) were requesting clarification regarding the lots they have
purchased. The Mr. David Miller feels that his lot is too low with respect to the height of the roadway
and the lots adjacent to him. Mike Campbell of R&M provided an explanation as to the grading plan
and the movement of the water within the subdivision. R&M suggested that the resident and those
affected (lots 30-32), as a group, submit revised grading plans to the City and request a grade
change. Ald. Pionek also suggested that the residents contact the developer to attempt to have him
rectify the situation and to provide guidance on the unsold lot in-between the two residents.
Acceptance of Improvements (Road and Storm Sewer) Kimberly Estates - One outstanding issue
remains in this development. A hydrant and the grading level surrounding it has yet to be resolved.
Due to the lack of written material provided to the Aldermen, prior to the meeting, Ald. Chiaverotti
moved to defer this item until data is obtained. Seconded by Ald. Salentine. Carried by all.
Ald. Slocomb also added that there have been several attempts, during the past 3 years to correct
this problem, to-date, no assistance has been given by the developer to correct the problem.
COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW - None
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT’S REPORT - Nothing to report.
ADJOURNMENT - Being no further business to discuss, Ald. Chiaverotti moved to adjourn the
meeting at 9:36 P.M. Ald. Salentine seconded, Carried by all.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda Gulgowski, Recording Secretary