COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - MINUTES - 5/25/2006
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE – CITY OF MUSKEGO Approved 6/22/2006
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD MAY 25, 2006
Mayor Charles H. Damaske called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM. Those present
recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Damaske, City Administrator Sheiffer, Ald. Borgman, Ald. Buckmaster,
Ald. Melcher, Ald. Snead, Ald. Salentine, Ald. Schroeder, Ald Madden,
Engineering/Building Inspection Director McMullen and those per the attached list.
STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE
Mayor Damaske stated that the meeting was noticed in accordance with the opening
meeting law.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Ald. Salentine moved for approval of the May 25, 2006 Agenda. Ald Madden
seconded. Motion to approve the agenda carried unanimously.
REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
Ald. Melcher moved for approval of the March 30, 2006 minutes. Ald. Borgman
seconded. Motion to approve the minutes carried unanimously.
Mayor determined that he would take items out of order.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Continue discussion of proposed 2010 Comprehensive Plan changes
Mayor Damaske gave Committee members a (2010 Land Use Plan Proposed
Amendments) map of the areas for discussion, and also asked if they received the letter
from Judy Strampe. He also noted that Mrs. Ruth Pellmann was in attendance.
Boundary #1 located south of Woods Road from the high school going north to just west
of Bay Lane Drive - Ald. Schroeder discussed what led to the proposal of possibly
amending the 2010 Land Use Plan for boundary #1. Mr. Stefaniak, landowner, brought
forward plans for a RS-2 development located off of Woods Road and Racine Avenue.
Ald. Schroeder received an overwhelming number of responses from the public hearing
and neighboring residents, who felt an RS-2 development in a shore land/wetland in the
Big Muskego Lake District area is out of line for conservation purposes. In response to
this, discussion began on how to preserve the conservation area that we already have.
Twenty years ago, residents did not expect the amount of development north of Bass
Bay and Big Muskego Lake area that we have today. At this point, Ald. Schroeder does
not want to move forward with boundary #1 in reference to the far west end until after a
meeting with Mr. Stefaniak and neighboring residents has been conducted.
Ald. Salentine and Ald. Madden agreed they are not ready to move forward with
boundary #1.
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Ald. Buckmaster stated Plan Commission members asked Council to revisit the
Comprehensive Plan, which resulted after five public hearings requesting to change the
zoning in the areas from Durham to North Cape to Racine and back to Woods Road.
He read comments from Plan Commission members regarding the Comprehensive
Plan:
We do not believe the plan is infallible; it is not rigidly cast in concrete.
It is produced to determine, at that time, what is the highest and best use of
our current land.
It is not an attempt to replace market forces of supply and demand.
It is not meant as an economic tool to either gain economic prosperity or not.
To achieve a balance approach between community rights, and the private
privilege of property owners.
Ald. Schroeder commented that with the neighboring meeting, he requested being held,
he would recommend changing the Stefaniak development to RSE zoning with one-acre
lots. Also, he would recommend changing the northeast area of boundary #1 to RS-2
zoning with the option of an OPD. He stated that these are his thoughts so that
everyone knows where he stands today, but Council has a lot of time to review and he
reserves the right to change his mind.
Ald. Buckmaster noted that Plan Commission members are in the process of revising
the current Zoning Code, Chapter 17. He suggested before making a complete
recommendation on the four boundaries, Council should first consider implementing the
new zoning code revision.
Boundary #2 is located along Bass Bay and Big Muskego Lake south of Mystic Drive
extending east to Durham Drive, all south of McShane Drive – Ald. Madden requested
more time to research the boundary before making a recommendation.
Boundary #3 is located west of Lake Denoon and south of Lake Denoon Park and the
middle school – Ald. Schroeder has not received any feedback for or against the
change so his recommendation is to move forward with proposed changes for this area.
After further discussion, it was determined to wait until after revisions are made to the
zoning code, Chapter 17.
Boundary #4 located north of Hwy 36, extending from the Champion’s Village
Subdivision to Thode Drive – Ald. Madden stated that the only reason she even
considered changing the zoning in boundary #4 was because of the water problems in
the area. Due to the water problems being rectified, she would recommend that
boundary #4 remain exactly the same as it is today.
After further discussion, Council recommended Plan Commission to move forward with
boundary #4, which should remain the same as it is currently. It was noted that the new
zoning code revisions, Chapter 17, should be implemented and considered before a
recommendation can be made for boundaries #1, #2 and #3.
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Ald. Madden stated, after discussion with Mrs. Pellmann, it is her understating that she
is not interested in developing the property, but to allow her family members to build
homes on it. Mrs. Pellmann stated that this does not necessarily mean that it won’t be
developed in the future.
NEW BUSINESS
Discuss draft request for proposals for Fire/Rescue Service Study (Mayor
Damaske)
Mr. Jeff Verburgt, Tess Corners Volunteer Fire Department appeared before the
Committee with items to consider for the fire/rescue study.
1. The consultant must have experience with volunteer fire and rescue services.
2. The consultant must have worked in the same demographics as our community.
3. The consultant must provide reference with contact numbers at the department.
4. T.C.V.F.D requests copies of draft proposal & final master plan.
5. T.C.V.F.D. will make staff available at their discretion.
6. T.C.V.F.D will reserve the right to change fees for information requested.
City Administrator Sheiffer stated the city was looking at the possibility of working with
U.W. Whitewater Fiscal and Economic Research Center along with the U.W. Extension
Local Government Center on the Fire/Rescue Service study. This option has been
explored and will not work out the way we had hoped. City Administrator Sheiffer
drafted with assistance from city staff, a request for proposal for Council’s input,
changes and feedback. She reminded them that there was no amount budgeted for this
work in 2006 and if Council decides to proceed with the study, funding will need to be
resolved. Ald. Melcher questioned how much will the study cost and whether it has
been done in other areas. Resident Eric Treba stated he is aware of a study that was
done in the community of Salem and the cost was about $50,000. Ald. Madden asked if
the city could get the name of the person that performed the study. City Administrator
Sheiffer asked Council to focus on page (1) under scope of service so that staff can be
assured that these are your objectives. After review, Ald. Madden commented that she
has no desire to combine, own or oversee the fire/rescue departments, and consultants
should not spend a considerable amount of time on these options. Ald. Buckmaster
would rather have consultants concentrate on the master plan and have it guide us to
what the options are. Ald. Melcher questioned if we want the plan for ten or fifteen
years which would be an important part of the perspective planning. Ald. Schroeder
said that City Administrator, as part of the request for proposal, could ask the
companies that are submitting what their recommendation is for a valid plan.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS continued
Discussion on MMSD 2020 Sewer Service Plan
Ald Schroeder advised that Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewerage District (MMSD) asked
for the city’s comment to propose a 2020 Sewer Service Plan but they have say over
exclusions and inclusions to the plan. The plan encompasses the whole city with
exceptions to the Norway Sanitation District and areas to the far west and south.
Taking into consideration the heavy increase in capital charges the day the plan would
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go into effect, he asked what further burden would be taken on or added to that capital
charge based on the equalized value in the service area. Engineering/Building
Inspection Director McMullen explained how capital charges are calculated and our
current sewer service area. He explained that in the sewer service area there are about
$1.9 billion dollars worth of value and outside the sewer service area (including the
Town of Norway and areas that will not be impacted) there are about $240 million
dollars worth of value. There is about $180 million dollars worth of net equalized value
in the Town of Norway District and in the outer areas boundary that is not shown. The
difference of $180 million dollars and $240 million dollars is the difference of the
equalized value for all the vacant land outside of that area which could result in capital
charges of $135 to $140 thousand dollars per year. The Public Utilities Committee
could have set the districts different in the sewer service area, which could have
reduced the capital charges in the future.
Discussion on possible ordinance to waive park dedication and conservation fees
in certain situations (Ald. Schroeder, Ald. Madden)
Ald. Madden questioned why property owners of a small family farm should be
burdened with the conservation and dedication fees when a land division is being done
for their children. Ald. Buckmaster said this item has come up before and it would be a
struggle to write an ordinance to encompass all possibilities and situations that could
arise. After further discussion, it was determined that Planner Muenkel and the City
Attorney would have to be involved with this item. Mayor Damaske suggested checking
with other municipalities to verify if they have an ordinance to waive fees for family
members. Ald. Schroeder said Mayor Damaske brought to his attention that Governor
Doyle could sign a bill on May 30, 2006 that would eliminate impact and park dedication
fees for property owners. He suggested this item be deferred until after the Governor
signs the bill.
NEW BUSINESS continued
Process for filling vacancy on Council (Ald. Schroeder)
Mayor Damaske provided a list of questions that were used in the past to interview
candidates to fill district vacancies. After reviewing the questions, it was noted that
some changes need to be made to reflect current situations in the city. Ald. Schroeder
talked about a recent situation where a village trustee was appointed at Mt. Pleasant.
Instead of asking specific questions relating to current events in the city, they gave each
candidate the opportunity to give a five-minute speech. The candidate could talk about
whatever they want to talk about, in which most cases, candidates may speak about
who they are, how long they have lived in the community, and their belief system. This
would allow us to evaluate the best candidate for the district based on the person as a
whole not community issues. He would like someone in place to represent the district
and constituents prior to the budget process. Mayor Damaske said each candidate will
submit a resume. A background check will be performed, and then council members
will conduct interviews. Ald. Snead questioned if copies of each resume will be
available for aldermen to review before the meeting. Mayor Damaske answered yes.
Discussion continued on how interviews were completed in the past. Ald. Schroeder
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stated that his last council meeting would be on August 22. He asked if the timeline
would allow him to be included in the discussion as to who would be most viable
candidate for District 6. He stated that he is not interested in voting, but would like to be
involved with the discussion. Ald. Schroeder will contact Mt. Pleasant to get a copy of
what instructions were presented to each candidate and will forward the information to
City Administrator Sheiffer and Mayor.
Discussion on placing citizen input on agenda for Common Council meeting and
Policy on privilege of the floor
Clerk-Treasurer Janice Moyer provided information from surrounding municipalities to
assist Council to determine how public input should be handled at Common Council
meetings.
Ald. Borgman liked the idea of the public comment/public hearing registration form that
would be filled out prior to the meeting, and a 30-minute time period during which each
person is allowed to speak for 2-minutes on agenda items.
Ald. Schroeder commented the comment/public hearing registration form option (to
speak or not to speak) would allow residents who do not wish to speak in public, the
opportunity to write their concerns to the aldermen. Also, he suggested the City
Administrator contact the City of Waukesha and ask what happens to the people if time
does not permit them to speak within the 30-minute time period.
Ald. Buckmaster stated that aldermen would listen to comments and not engage in any
discussion on items during the 30-minute time period.
Aldermen directed City Administrator Sheiffer to format a resolution based on their
recommendations/comments on this item for the next Common Council meeting.
COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW
Ald. Borgman commented that the process time for agenda items is taking too long to
get things accomplished. He talked about a situation where an item he sponsored was
discussed when he was not in attendance at the meeting and now it is going to take too
long for this item to be placed on the agenda at committee level. Discussion on the flow
chart of agenda items from committee to council, and back to committee took place.
Discussion regarding a resolution being placed on the next Council agenda took place
regarding oversight of Muskego Historical Society issues. Ald. Buckmaster stated that a
special Public Works Committee could also be scheduled prior to the next Council
meeting to discuss this issue.
ADJOURNMENT
Ald. Melcher moved to adjourn at 9:51 PM. Seconded by Ald. Buckmaster, motion
carried.
Kim Chavie
Recorder Transcriber