COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - MINUTES - 10/6/2005
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE – CITY OF MUSKEGO Approved
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD OCTOBER 6, 2005
Ald. Melcher (Common Council President) chaired the meeting and called it to order at
7:00 PM. Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Present: Ald. Borgman, Ald. Madden, Ald. Melcher, Ald. Patterson, Ald. Schroeder and
Mayor Damaske
Absent: Ald. Buckmaster (excused), Ald. Salentine (excused)
Also in attendance City Administrator Jennifer Sheiffer, Clerk-Treasurer Janice Moyer
and Interim Finance Director Sharon Mueller.
GUEST: None
STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE
The recording secretary stated that the meeting was noticed in accordance with the
opening meeting law.
REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
Ald. Madden moved for approval of the September 26, 2005 minutes. Ald.
Borgman seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to approve the minutes
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Agenda was accepted as published.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Rescue/Auto Answering System
Clerk-Treasurer presented her research results (attached) on the rescue billing
outsourcing and the automated answering system. City staff had met with two different
companies for information only on rescue billing. One of the benefits would be a cash
flow increase as billing would be done continually instead of once a month. Also, the
billing would be sent directly to the private insurance carriers whereas now it is sent to
the customer. This would result in an increase for customer service. Both companies
were willing to help out with HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act)
compliancy; the privacy act and they have policies set in place for the employees they
hire. Ald. Borgman inquired about a cost estimate. Clerk-Treasurer had a cost estimate
of $20,000-$23,000 annually and derived this amount on a percentage established by
the company of the annual revenues.
Clerk-Treasurer said the auto attendant feature is typically connected to a voice mail
system. The city’s current system does have auto attendant feature but it is not turned
on at city hall; the police department does have it activated. She had also received
information on a speech enabled auto attendant which would allow the caller to speak
instead of pushing buttons for a department or person. The goal is to have a system
that is customer friendly. Ald. Patterson was concerned that the caller would be able to
get help right away and not get frustrated with the system. Ald. Madden stated the
voice attendant usually has issues with elderly, cell phones and monotype voices. For
these, she recommended a very brief message be used, keep the message short. Ald.
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Patterson stated they are making a choice, do they want to give service to our citizens
or do they want to find the most expedient way. Ald. Madden said the right set up in a
voice mail system is better customer service. Ald. Patterson there is the perception,
people tend to relate to people more, they can’t relate to the computer or the voice that
no one listens to. Clerk-Treasurer said the idea is to get them to the right place without
the person, to give them an option out if they have trouble and not make them press 15
buttons or make them say their request 5 times. Ald. Schroeder asked if the current
auto attendant has speech-enabled auto attendant? Clerk-Treasurer stated it did not.
Ald. Melcher asked, in her past experience with such a system, if the trustees were
called more often because they could not understand the voice mail? Clerk-Treasurer
responded she did not have any trustees complain about residents having trouble with
it. A couple residents had asked about it and when it was explained as a cost-saving
measure, they understood. No outpouring of complaints. She added, that the voice
mail systems that Information Systems is researching, does have the speech-enable
feature. Ald. Schroeder would like RFP (Request for Proposals) to go out on the rescue
billing. On the answering system, he would like a demonstration on the auto attendant
feature with the current system that is in place. He would like it user-friendly as possible
with an opting out at the correct points. If the demonstration is positive, go with it for six
months and have a suggestion box on the issue at the office. Ald. Melcher asked if any
survey had been done on communities using auto attendant. Clerk-Treasurer said the
City of Waukesha had used one for quite some time; the Village of Mount Pleasant had
used one for a year and they had received complaints at first, but after a year, it seems
to be working for them. There are larger communities that still have someone answer
the phone and have the resources to provide the service. Ald. Madden said to make
sure the auto attendant voice mail works well is in managing the department well. It’s
the people that hide behind the voice mail and don’t pick up the calls. Aldermanic
concerns were that the customer would get caught in the system and not receive
service or not get to the right department. Ald. Schroeder moved to prepare an RFP
for the rescue billing and have staff put together a mock auto attendant which is
in house already for a demonstration. Ald. Patterson seconded. Clerk-Treasurer
informed the aldermen that the employee is leaving November 18 and there will be no
one on staff that could do the ambulance billing, no one that has that skill. This also will
be the start of her office’s busy time. Other provisions may have to be made to handle
all the calls and the customers at that time of the year. Ald. Patterson suggested that
the Information/Finance Secretary could help the office out on a temporary basis until
the phone system setup has been decided. Ald. Madden thought that the majority of
calls coming into city hall eventually go to Building/Engineering, Planning or Assessor
and offered that the calls could be targeted to start there and they would be answering
those calls until something has been set up. Interim Finance Director, with the current
motion on the floor, needed more clarification on who’s responsible for the rescue billing
as they needed to be handled. Ald. Patterson said the RFPs would go out for those
services and they were within the price range would be separate and not have to wait
on the auto attendant system decision. Ald. Schroeder thought that a decision on the
auto attendant could be made prior to November. Back to the motion, Ald. Patterson
offered that it be split into two motions. Ald. Schroeder moved to go ahead with the
RFP for the rescue billing. Ald. Patterson seconded. Upon a voice vote, the
motion carried. Ald. Schroeder moved to have staff prepare an auto attendant
using the current in house for demonstration purposes as soon as possible so
that a decision can be made. Ald. Madden seconded. Upon a voice vote, the
motion carried. In response to the Clerk-Treasurer’s inquiry on where do the RFPs go,
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Mayor Damaske stated before Finance Committee and then Common Council. Ald.
Patterson asked if anyone had consulted with the EMTs on outsourcing the rescue
billing. Clerk-Treasurer had talked with them and what the city is proposing will not
have an impact on what they are doing. In regard to the auto attendant demonstration,
Ald. Madden suggested the auto attendant feature be part of the demonstration of the
new phone system before Finance Committee/Common Council next Tuesday. She will
see what she can arrange. Clerk-Treasurer was directed to check with the Information
Systems Director to see what’s involved in setting up the in house auto attendant. Ald.
Madden’s concern was that there may be a cost involved if they need to get SBC to
program it. With that possibility, Ald. Schroeder said maybe they should hold off on it
until after the demonstration on Tuesday. If that turns out to be within the budgeted
amount, Council may want to go with that system. Ald. Madden’s phone representative
will be talking about the entire network and how to set it up.
Police Department Operating Budget Addition
Interim Finance Director presented the request from the Police Chief for an additional
item in his operating budget. They need to budget for replacement of UPS
(Uninterrupted Power Source) batteries. Routinely these are replaced at three-year
increments. The UPS system provides uninterrupted power supply to the police
department and the city computer and telephone network. He was asking to increase
his building maintenance by $2,500. In reviewing the documents provided by the
Chief, there was discussion on the maintenance, repairs, and consumables for building
and grounds for $8,000 and what consisted of consumables. Ald. Schroeder moved to
include the $2,500 for the replacement of the UPS batteries. Ald. Patterson
seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously.
2006 Capital Budget
Ald. Patterson questioned the Mobile/Animal/Prisoner Transport Command Post
terminology. Ald. Schroeder explained that it could be used to transport all three. He
noted that some money used would be coming from drug-use forfeiture fees ($20,000)
and from the sale of the old van ($2,300) with the balance from capital ($12,700).
Ald. Melcher inquired about the $4,000 cost for the generator. Interim Finance Director
stated that was if they needed additional equipment to set up the generator. Ald.
Madden added that you have to ready the building to accept the generator.
Interim Finance Director asked if everyone had a chance to review the information on
the DVD Playback as provided by the Club President. Ald. Schroeder moved to
approve the $12,500 for the DVD Playback for Cable TV. Ald. Melcher seconded.
Upon a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously.
Ald. Schroeder asked about the Surplus Fund Balance being broken into Capital
Expenditure and Capital Borrowing, but they are not borrowing. Interim Finance
Director said that was for the designation under Surplus Fund Balance. Ald. Schroeder
questioned if that would be notes or GL bonds surplus. Interim Finance Director
explained the distinction between the two: Capital Expenditure is really funded by the
landfill and Capital Borrowing which includes GL borrowing and notes. There is closed
to $400,000 in Capital Expenditure account and about $3,000,000 in Capital Borrowing.
Ald. Schroeder surmised that Capital Expenditure is money from the Landfill Fund for
capital items that either came in under budget or were not purchased for some reason.
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Interim Finance Director further stated that the grouping of items under landfill,
amounting to $158,174, is going to be transferred into Capital Expenditure.
Ald. Schroeder asked if there was an understanding on the GIS special revenue fund?
Interim Finance Director responded that she had made the adjustment of $12,000 into
the 2005 expenditure.
In regard to the Department of Public Works vehicles, Ald. Melcher inquired if the
$28,500 was for a used vehicle, a smaller ¾-ton? Ald. Schroeder stated that was to
replace a small pick-up truck.
Ald. Schroeder commented that the Capital Expenditure Summary was a fair
representation of what the committee had worked on for the last month and a half.
Ald. Melcher questioned if the dry basin retrofit was what they discussed last week?
Ald. Schroeder explained the city budgeted for the engineering of the pond last year
with the construction being slated for 2006. This pond will basically serve as a pond that
will service the industrial park for those expanding or building new buildings. They
would buy into the pond and not have to build a pond on their own property, therefore,
they can fully utilize their property. This is to give industrial park businesses an
incentive to expand.
At this point, Ald. Schroeder shared that he had received information from Building/
Engineering Director that a roadway matching grant for $100,000 from the State’s
available. With the $85,000 in the industrial park fund for improvements and adding
$15,000 from the 2006 road program, they could match the $100,000. The $200,000
would be used for roadway improvements, expanding, making larger entrances/
intersections to the industrial park. Ald. Borgman would like to see a stop and go light
installed. Ald. Schroeder stated that would exceed the amount of the grant and did the
city want to purchase a light for a county highway. It should be left for the county to
install. Ald. Borgman commented on the amount of congestion along the industrial park
stretch of Racine Avenue. Ald. Melcher shared that he had a cost of $750,000 for
directional lights at the intersection of Racine Avenue and Hillendale Drive. Ald.
Schroeder mentioned that the county would want intersections reconfigured to right
angles for installation traffic signals which greatly increases the cost. He thought the
Loomis Road /Muskego Dam intersection was in excess of $375,000. Ald. Schroeder
requested that the Mayor and the City Administrator confirm with Building/Engineering
Director that the money is available in the road program, $15,000 of the $550,000.
Ald. Patterson shared the discussions relative to the fire truck for Muskego for their
need for the ISO rating. They had a meeting with both fire chiefs and the police chief.
MVFD Chief indicated they may have been a little over anxious as far as their concerns
with the ISO rating and that there wasn’t really any particular danger that there may be
a change of number and if there is, they have like a year to look at whatever equipment
they need to change so he really didn’t feel there was anything. Actually, they would like
the city to give them the truck, but the fears that were being expressed were maybe a
little more than what it actually was. He was informed by ISO that if there was an
automatic response that they wouldn’t even have to have the truck as long as there was
an automatic response from another department. In regards to that, some discussions
about setting up automatic responses. Apparently, they have been looking at this for
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over a year. He shared the letter that was sent out in April from Tess Corners to
Muskego confirming some plans and instituted since May 2 and they were waiting for
additional information from Muskego and as yet, have not received it. Both departments
are working on the goal to have three-station response to fires which would mean
mutual aids automatically being turned out. Both departments will keep the city
updated. Mayor Damaske advised that Building/Engineering Director had received a call
from ISO indicating there would be a big jump in (whatever number) if the city did not
get the pumper. Ald. Madden asked City Administrator to verify this information. Mayor
Damaske told the committee the city will be looking at a consultant to analyze the fire
departments and make recommendations in the best interest of the city. Ald. Patterson
would like to see the evaluation from the ISO. Committee members also discussed
auditing the financial records of the fire departments.
2006 Operating Budget
Interim Finance Director noted that the transportation aids came in at $791,837 which is
a 3.96% increase from last year and the health insurance premium came in at 12.04%
which is lower than budgeted by 2.96%. On the Operating Budget Adjustment
Summary, she focused on vacant secretary position under the Clerk-Treasurer
Department. It was the administration’s recommendation to remove this position and
the committee recommended to add two part-time positions. Did the committee want
their recommendation to stay in place or removed? It would total $30,325. Ald.
Schroeder stated it was difficult to answer. He noted in the Clerk-Treasurer’s handout,
she was asking for $16,000 contingency in case she decided the phone system was not
going to work and she could hire a part-time person. At maximum, he thought she was
only asking for one part-time person. Interim Finance Director stated this was budgeted
for in the contingency. City Administrator clarified that the Clerk-Treasurer wanted the
$16,000 for an additional floater person going forward if the phone system works. It
would be no additional secretarial need assigned to the Clerk-Treasurer’s office alone
whereas in the current proposed budget, there is two half-time. They are not sure they
need the two half-time but would like to reserve some funds in case later the phone
system works and the city has some money set aside to look at an additional half-time
floater position. If they’re not sure about the phone system at this point, they may want
to leave the two half-time positions. There may be a need to have staff answer the
phones if not having the auto attendant phone system. Ald Schroeder responded that if
the phone system doesn’t work, the city hires the two half-time positions at $30,000 and
you add on the $25,000 for the rescue billing, then the city is up to $55,000 and the
current person in place with benefits is slightly less than $55,000, what is the gain or
loss? Ald. Madden thought the Clerk-Treasurer’s concern was based around tax time.
She thought that the City Administrator was indicating the position was not just for the
Clerk-Treasurer but the entire area. Ald. Schroeder said he wasn’t talking about the
$16,000, but he never understood the two part-time positions and the rescue services
being billed out, basically at the same cost of replacing the retiree. Ald. Madden thought
it was either/or the phone system works and they may use the floater, or the phone
system doesn’t work and they will need the two part-time positions. Ald. Schroeder’s
point was that if the phone system doesn’t work, the city is expending the same amount
of funds as a full-time person that could learn the rescue billing. Ald. Melcher stated
originally, the two part-time positions; one would be for phone and the other one for
billing and if the billing is out, then that would eliminate one half-time position. Ald.
Madden said to leave the positions in as ultimately it’s not going to hurt. Interim
Finance Director cautioned that the cost could exceed $50,000 to hire a person
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because of the expertise and it may not be possible to find someone with that
background. Without the retiree on staff, the person would have to come in with the
experience.
Ald. Schroeder inquired where the tax rate was right now? Interim Finance Director
replied it is still the same. The items that she adjusted were the transfers and the
funding sources. The tax rate she has not touched. The tax levy increase is 2.148 for
operating and debt service is slightly up. Ald. Schroeder surmised they are at the tax
levy allowable. Interim Finance Director said the city is slightly under and could possibly
raise it by $30,000.
Ald. Melcher inquired about the non-departmental miscellaneous expenses. Interim
Finance Director believed it was the parade fund. Ald. Patterson questioned if the city
had been doing the $7,500. He thought that a large portion of their money was for the
festival parade as the units are expensive, as in the past, 50% went to the parade.
Mayor Damaske commented the budget needed cutting and this is one area to look.
Ald. Melcher will bring it to the festival committee when they meet in two weeks.
Ald. Patterson questioned the Information Systems’ reclass personnel/outside services
if it was the reclassification of the contracted service for the police department? Interim
Finance Director responded it was for Mr. Gifford. Ald. Patterson said he thought it was
a contracted service doing some specialty work and his interpretation of a contracted
service really falls within the parameter. This is just to make it a position versus a
contracted service, thus the FICA. He would like the City Administrator to check on it.
He would like to see the $750 increase saved.
Looking at the two fire departments’ operating budgets, Ald. Patterson said there was
too great of a disparity between the two requests. He thought the city was within their
right to ask for their books to do an internal audit within the next six months. Mayor
Damaske thought the city could request their financial reports at the end of the year.
Under the Property Assessment, Interim Finance Director asked if the committee had
removed the new position request? Ald. Schroeder requested that the City
Administrator along with the department head reassess the position for next year.
Ald. Melcher asked about the mileage amount being cut back for the Building
/Engineering Department. Interim Finance Director explained the amount was based off
the history and they have not spent anywhere near the past budgeted amount. The
department head asked for auto allowance of $900 in place of the mileage which was
reduced from $2,000 to $500. This would represent closer to actual. Ald. Melcher
inquired if the professional /contract fees was for people that are called to come in?
Interim Finance Director stated that with the full-time building inspector hired this year,
this amount was reduced.
In regard to the Library’s request, Ald. Melcher inquired if there was no book expense
item because it was covered by the county. Interim Finance Director stated this was
close to actual as they had reviewed past history.
Under revenues, noting the Planning land record capital charge reduced to $0, Ald.
Melcher asked if it was taken out? Interim Finance Director said that it was to support
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the GIS Special Revenue Fund that was put in place to pay for capital projects. In
2007, Ald. Schroeder stated that it would go back in. This was only for 2005-2006.
Interim Finance Director reviewed the net change from 2005 to 2006. The revenue
increases by $514,727, taxes and intergovernmental revenues. Expenditure increases
of $796,834 mainly contributed to personnel, road program and debt expenses. This
results in a net expenditure over revenue of $282,107. Funding sources to offset this
amount:
Use of Surplus Fund Balance $ 96,807
Distribution of Positive Tax Increment 107,333
Transfer from Refuse/Recycling 75,000
Transfer from Cable Fund (6,782) This was decreased in case
the city would loose franchise fees.
Transfers in Debt Service (8,475) This will be a continual
decrease each year.
for a total increase from funding sources of $262,883.
Funding Uses were (increased) and decreased as follows:
Transfer to CDA Fund $46,000 This was decreased because of an
adjustment in attorney fees.
Transfer to Capital Improvement 3,251
Transfer to GIS (11,750)
Transfer to Park Dedication (19,277) This was to fund additional costs for
the Old Town Hall.
for a total funding uses decrease of $18,224.
2006 Special Revenue
Interim Finance Director reviewed with the committee the changes in special revenue
funding since the last meeting.
Refuse/Recycling, $75,000 transfer
Cable TV Fund, reduced to $110,000
Landfill Fund, increased the transfer to Well Water Protection, $33,000 and
added $200,000 to Compensated Absences
Well Testing Reserve Fund, increased $33,000
Rescue Fund, added $20,000 for possible outsource of billing…Ald. Schroeder
noted the belief that the uncollectibles would decrease, but he didn’t think it
matter who sent the bill and the uncollectibles would be uncollectible. Interim
Finance Director commented that sending the invoices direct to the private
insurance carrier may make the difference as well as more accurate information
from the rescue service.
Capital Improvement, transfer of $150,000 to general fund
Sewer Utility, transfer of $161,238 to general fund for changes in operating
GIS Detail, added $12,250 for estimated 2005 expenses
Community Development Authority, adjusted the attorney fees down to $20,000
for 2005 and $30,000 for 2006, removing the transfer to general fund
Compensated Absences, $300,000 reflects the transfer from the Landfill
Fund..Ald Borgman inquired about the goal for this account. Interim Finance
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Director said it was $2 million. Ald Madden shared that the landfill is applying for
an expansion during the last quarter of this year.
NEW BUSINESS
Future Budget
Interim Finance Director asked if the committee members wanted new sheets printed
out for their books. Those wanting them, can turn their books in for revision.
Public Hearing
Interim Finance Director advised she was planning to eMail to THE MUSKEGO SUN on
Friday. She questioned why in the past, the public hearing was separate from the
Common Council date. Ald. Schroeder stated it was done separately because if they
heard any compelling testimony for changes, these could be done before the Common
Council formal action. The public hearing was set for November 7 and the budget to go
to the Common Council on November 8.
Ald. Schroeder was looking for the levy increase rate with the new evaluations. Where
is the city right now with the budget? Interim Finance Director stated the rate was $4.79
per thousand; the rate last year was $6.40 per thousand. The 2005 levy was
$10,552,000 and for 2006, $10,863.046 projected. This is a tax increase of what the
State will allow, $39,000. Next year’s (2007) levy will be based off of the 2006 levy.
Mayor Damaske advised that the debt service will become due eventually.
In regard to the Information Systems’ position, Ald. Schroeder suggested it be
discussed internally first. There had been some discussion about the allotment of the
Information Systems/Finance Secretary’s time. He did not know if it was a
recommendation of less time in some areas or what. Basically, the city is going to
budget for the position’s time next year, however, there needs to be some internal
discussion with City Administrator, Mayor, Interim Finance Director, Clerk-Treasurer,
Information Systems Director as to helping the Clerk-Treasurer’s office during the
interim time period concerning the Clerk-Treasurer. Is there opportunity for the staff
person to be used in the Clerk-Treasurer’s office.
Ald. Schroeder asked how much fund balance are they using to meet the operating
budget? Interim Finance Director said $3,655, use of fund balance, not including all the
funding sources. Last year, it was a negative balance, $93,152, as they were putting
money back into the fund. Therefore, there will be an increase of $96,807. Ald.
Schroeder’s concern was when they use fund balance to balance the budget, that it is
artificially balancing the budget. He wanted to know the total funds that were used out of
fund balances and that could be any fund. Interim Finance Director stated that for other
funding sources, not really using the fund balances because those are sources of
revenue, where the operating is just the $3,655. The other is distribution of tax
increment which are dissolving. She did verify with VK (Virchow, Krause & Company)
the actual amount that could be budgeted. Because there is such a high fund balance,
they are looking for 15% of expenditures over the total and the city has exceeded 19%.
Don Vilione stated Moody’s would not have a problem if the city were to use even
$100,000 of fund balance per year for the next six years.
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COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW
Ald. Melcher shared that the Muskego/Norway School District went up by 81 students
in comparison to other municipalities, a 1.2% increase.
Ald. Patterson informed the committee that next week Tuesday, the county is going to
be taking a final vote on the Janesville Road expansion. Common Council is being held
on Tuesday. Even though the City of Muskego did send the County of Waukesha a
resolution regarding the project, which they chose not to listen to, committee members
discussed the importance of having the City of Muskego represented at the meeting.
SET AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING
Next meeting date was not set.
ADJOURNMENT
Ald. Madden moved to adjourn at 9:24 p.m. Ald. Borgman seconded. Upon a
voice vote, motion carried.
Stella Dunahee, CPS
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF MUSKEGO
OFFICE OF THE CLERK-TREASURER
W182 S8200 RACINE AVENUE, MUSKEGO, WI 53150
PHONE: (262) 679-5624
MEMORANDUM
TO: Committee of Whole and Mayor Damaske
FROM: Janice Moyer, Clerk-Treasurer
DATE: 1/20/2022
RE: Rescue Billing/City Hall Switchboard
The Committee of the Whole authorized city staff to research the two referenced job
duties that are currently performed in the Clerk-Treasurer’s Office.
Rescue Billing
Information was received from two rescue billing services. They were invited to meet
with city staff not for proposal purposes, but for information gathering.
After the meetings it was evident that at this point the City could realize a benefit from
outsourcing the rescue billing. The following is a list of benefits:
Cash flow is increased because invoicing is done continually instead of monthly
Stronger review process for run sheets from the EMS
Flexibility to tailor a system of collection similar to the City’s current system
Ability to submit charges directly to insurance companies, result in increased
customer service
Companies ability to make recommendations regarding charges and other
aspects of billing
Willingness to help with training of EMT’s for reporting accuracy
HIPAA compliancy
Short transition period for start-up
Automated Answering System
Information has been received regarding a speech enabled auto attendant. This would
allow the caller to speak instead of pushing a button to be directed to the correct
department or person. It also can be programmed to send the caller to a staff person if
they have trouble using the attendant. This is a feature of the voice mail systems Joe
Sommers has been researching. The current auto attendant does not have the speech
option.
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Recommendation
At this time I am recommending that the rescue billing be outsourced (cost estimated at
$20,000 to $23,000 annually) and an automated answering system be used (cost $0)
for the main switchboard. In place of the two one-half time positions in the current
proposed budget, I am recommending that $16,000 be added to the contingency fund
for a future potential floater position.