COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - MINUTES - 2/10/2005
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE – CITY OF MUSKEGO A pproved – 2/24/05
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 10, 2005 Audio Available
Mayor Slocomb called the meeting to order at 7:06 P.M. Those present recited the Pledge of
Allegiance.
Roll call: Aldermen Salentine, Patterson, Buckmaster, Borgman, Melcher, Schroeder, Madden,
Mayor Slocomb, Clerk-Treasurer Moyer, and Interim Plan Director Muenkel were present.
Clerk-Treasurer Moyer stated that the meeting was noticed in accordance with the open meeting
law.
Alderman Salentine moved for approval of the meeting minutes from January 20, 2005.
Alderman Madden seconded. Minutes from January 20 were corrected. The last paragraph on
page 2 was corrected to read, “Ald. Madden Salentine distributed a Virchow Krause payment
history, which was discussed.” Motion carried.
Approval of the Agenda – Alderman Schroeder moved to take New Business item 3 followed by
Unfinished Business item 6 and then the remaining agenda. Alderman Madden seconded.
Motion carried.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Review Section 17.9.04 (7) Permitted Uses in the Lake Shore District (Regulations
Regarding Boathouses) (Council 1/05) – Interim Plan Director, Jeff Muenkel, presented a
memo that included information showing that about 30 existing structures would become
nonconforming if the boathouse ordinance were repealed. Mayor Slocomb handed out a
copy of the minutes for the Little Muskego Lake District in which they addressed
structures and their location relative to the lake. If the boathouse ordinance were
repealed, these structures would be considered principal structures that are required to
be 50’ away from the ordinary watermark of the lake. The DNR currently has a 75’
setback in unincorporated areas, which is designed to promote easier maintenance of
vegetation and increased refuges for wildlife. There will be a visual impact with
structures but patios and decks are closer to the lake at this time. The Little Muskego
Lake District Annual Meeting voted down a resolution to support a change to increase the
setback requirement for new construction, 20 for and 37 against. If the Common Council
agrees to consider repealing the boathouse ordinance, then the property owners should
be notified if they have a potential nonconforming structure.
Alderman Melcher – stated that the DNR has not been in favor of boathouses in
unincorporated areas since 1979. Several property owners had contacted
Alderman Melcher who are opposed to boathouses. Many property owners were
under the impression that new boathouses are currently not allowed, which is not
the case. He feels a shoreline full of boathouses takes away from the aesthetic
value of the shoreline; a patio is an open space. Boathouses also obstruct the
view of the lake for property owners that do not own lake property. Boathouses
many times are in disrepair and most often are not used for storage of boats. He
is against new boathouses in order to preserve the nice environment of the lake
and shoreline. Alderman Schroeder asked Alderman Melcher to list his reasons
in writing for proposing the change for the Common Council. He would also like
to see the proposed changes go to the lake districts for their input before moving
any further on repealing the boathouse ordinance.
Alderman Patterson – Asked for a breakdown of how many boathouses on which
lakes. Jeff Muenkel stated that they have some information from building permit
information, but some are old and there may not be records. He would also like
to have each Lake District get a letter with the proposed changes that can be
presented at their annual meetings.
Alderman Borgman – has received two calls complaining about the size of
certain boathouses.
Alderman Buckmaster – has no problem supporting a change to repeal the
boathouse ordinance. Would also like to get input from the lake districts.
Alderman Salentine – suggested a mailing to the 2,000 properties in the lake
districts notifying them of the proposed changes.
The Committee of the Whole agreed that two questions should be included in the letters to the
Lake District Associations. The first question is whether the Common Council should take action
to eliminate all boathouses; the second question is whether the Common Council should require
all new structures to be at least 75 feet from the shoreline.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1. Continue Discussion Regarding Structure of the Finance Department (Finance 1/05)
Discussion May Also Include City Organizational Structure and Possible Creation of New
Positions or Revision of Existing Positions and Reporting Relationships – The following
comments were noted:
Alderman Schroeder – stated that he was in favor of filling the Finance Director
position with some minor changes. His proposal was to be in favor of Assistant
Administrator/Financial Officer who would be the department head of the
Finance Department and report to the Mayor. Job responsibilities would include
75% financial officer/assistant administrator and 15% to 25% human resource.
The human resource issues that have financial issues involved would be
handled by the Assistant Administrator/Financial Officer. The human resource
issues that are non-financial would be handled by Cathie Anderson, Executive
Assistant/HR Coordinator. Executive Assistant/HR Coordinator would receive
some direction from the Assistant Administrator/Financial Officer regarding non-
financial human resource issues, with the approval of the Mayor. He felt that a
person hired for the position could over time make suggestions on structure
changes. He would like to get a person in place to begin to move forward. He
felt that a city administrator did not receive enough support when discussed the
past year. He would like a committee in place to work with the new department
head and existing staff to evaluate the existing structure and possibly make
suggestions for change if warranted. He would like the committee to be made
up of department heads, aldermen, and possibly community members to provide
input as to whether or not the City should move to hire an administrator.
Alderman Buckmaster – had concerns about the reporting structure for an
administrator/HR position. If this position requires additional human resource
hours then the department may need to be restructured. He does not object to
the Assistant Administrator/Financial Officer as it was presented by Alderman
Schroeder. Maybe a restructuring committee should be created to work with a
new department head and finance department to set up a structure. He feels
that creating a full-time administrator position would cause a review of the
complete City structure. He would like to have a request for proposals
developed for audit services after a new person is hired, in order to test the
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market and see if there is any readjustment needed of audit/financial consulting
services based on the new structure, once it is decided.
Alderman Melcher – stated that he would like to see staff involved in any
restructure, such as how they see the system, the benefits, the good points,
changes staff would like to see. Instead of changes coming from the top down
the changes should come from the bottom up which has a much more positive
decision. If this new person could take charge of union negotiations, this would
free up the Mayor. His ultimate idea for the City is to have a Mayor who has
more time to devote to economic development of the City. He feels that a
person who would “grow into the position” may feel a burden has been added
rather than something that they would willingly move into if the individual is hired
knowing the job duties. He would like to see a person hired for a specific job
description versus growing into a position.
Alderman Patterson – stated that the City has moved forward with strong
department heads that have made changes with staff input and cooperation in
the past. He feels that the new department head should review the department
structure and then continue to grow. He would like to see a new department
head hired and then given the opportunity to work with the existing system and
then lead the department. The person could then grow into the position, with
additional staff if needed so the person is not overburdened with new job duties.
A committee could be created to review the department after a period of time
had lapsed, not in the beginning and from month to month.
Alderman Madden – asked if the Committee of the Whole really knows what
they want right now. Several positions have been discussed during the past
year to year and one-half, such as administrator/community development
person, administrator/HR person, and administrator/finance person. Is this
process being rushed to fill a vacant department head position without
considering and thinking about the positions that were discussed. An
administrator position would not have as great of a financial impact because a
finance director would not be hired. She would like to give the existing staff the
option of submitting comments anonymously.
Alderman Salentine – stated that she is in favor of a full-time city administrator
with a full-time mayor. An administrator could have economic development,
financial, or human resource qualities.
Mayor Slocomb – stated that if an administrator is hired that cannot act in at
least 50% of a finance director capacity then another accountant would need to
be hired or work would need to be outsourced.
Alderman Borgman – stated that a position should be filled after a structure is in
place instead of setting structure around a position or person.
The Committee of the Whole asked the Mayor to provide the costs for two options. Also, the
Mayor was asked to send an e-mail to the Finance Department staff asking them for comments
regarding the structure of the department.
Option 1 – Full-time Assistant Administrator/Financial Officer with a salary range increase
from the previous finance director.
Option 2 – Full-time City Administrator, change the Accountant to a Comptroller who
would then be a department head, and increase two part-time positions to two full-time
positions.
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Alderman Melcher stated that he would like to see the current Accountant, Sharon Mueller,
receive an increase in salary above what was approved at the Common Council Meeting, held
January 25, 2005, for her Interim Finance Director duties. The compensation will be forwarded to
the next Common Council Meeting. The increase will be as outlined in the e-mail the Common
Council Members received.
2. Discuss Status of Old Muskego Settlement Centre (Lease) – no report, will be discussed
this coming spring.
3. Discuss Status of Old Muskego Settlement Centre (Renovation) – an outside firm did an
inspection and plan review. The City should know the results on February 11.
4. Update on Proposed Development at Valley Sand & Gravel Site (Ald. Schroeder 1/04) –
nothing new.
5. Continued Review of Conservation Subdivision Ordinance (Common Council 3/04) –
Alderman Buckmaster stated that there are different opinions regarding the existing
ordinance. There is concern regarding wetlands located in these subdivisions. The
Interim Plan Director Muenkel will be doing research to bring forward a formula for use of
wetlands and developable land in conservation subdivisions.
NEW BUSINESS
2. Discuss Recommendation of the Parks and Recreation Board Regarding Water Bugs
Ski Team and the Proposed Idle Isle Building – Alderman Melcher reported that the
following three options were proposed by the Building/Engineering Director for demolition
and construction of a new building at Idle Isle Park.
Option 1
The City would publicly bid the project. This would involve the design, bidding, and
construction management by the City’s engineering staff. It is the most expensive option.
The City would review the bids and allocate the initial cost to the Water bugs in the same
way that the Festival Committee paid for the upgrades they requested to the Veterans
Memorial Park pavilion.
Option 2
A donation of 100% of labor or materials from the Water Bugs to help reduce the cost of
the improvement. The donation of labor would require several additional steps to comply
with the Department of Workforce Development standards and would require supervision
and scheduling by the City’s engineering staff. This provision is only legal if 100% of the
labor and materials are donated. If any portion of the work needs to be performed by a
private contractor then the entire project must be publicly bid. Issues with this option are
the unknown material amounts and the scheduling of the work. This option may also
lead to conflict later if a certain division of work that was thought to be covered is
suddenly or inadvertently overlooked.
Option 3
Similar to Option 1, the project would be bid in several divisions of work. The divisions
such as framing, concrete, plumbing, electric, etc. would allow the Water Bugs to bid the
project as a normal contractor, with the Water Bugs taking on the roll of contractor. The
amount of work and value of work performed by the Water Bugs could be used to offset
the initial costs of the amenities that are currently being requested by the Water Bugs.
The City would treat the Water Bugs as a contractor and they would be responsible for
their division of work including scheduling, materials, and incidentals.
The following comments were noted:
Alderman Schroeder – noted that the Club has asked for a 25-year lease for use of
Idle Isle Park. The Park and Recreation Board have suggested a 10-year lease
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instead. The Council should feel comfortable with the history of use of the lake by
the Water Bugs and the feelings of the people on the lake. If a 10-year lease is
considered then maybe it should be presented to the Little Muskego Lake District for
comments. Over the next 10 years the use of the Little Muskego Lake for recreation
will probably increase and many issues may come up that the residents may want to
comment on. The noise from the Water Bugs practices and shows could be a
problem for the property owners in the bay where they occur. He questioned the use
of the new building. The City will use about 500 square feet of the building that
includes the restrooms and the park department office. The Water Bugs will use the
restrooms for changing costumes, the storage area for their boats/equipment, and
the kitchen for food sales during the shows. He questioned the City’s cost that is
estimated to be $133,000 for demolishing and constructing a new building for 500
square feet of restrooms and office space. He feels that the Common Council needs
to be comfortable with allowing three quarters of the building to be used on a yearly
basis by the Water Bugs and not the City.
Mayor Slocomb – stated that a 10-year lease would include very specific language as
to dates of shows, practices, and all aspects of the Water Bugs’ operations. Some
items should be reviewed on an annual basis. A 10-year lease agreement could be
structured with a set economic value for the structure. The value would then
decrease annually. If the City decides not to execute a lease then the City would pay
to the Water Bugs the remaining value of the lease, if there is value remaining.
Alderman Buckmaster – stated that a lease with the Water Bugs is not a
disadvantage because it will help Idle Isle be rebuilt. The current structure is not
very aesthetically pleasing. He is ok with a 10-year lease in order to proceed with the
new building. The Water Bugs shows are very popular and well attended by the
community. He wants additional information regarding leases for new construction of
a similar use.
Alderman Melcher – without the 10-year lease the Club will not donate time or
money. They want some guarantee that they can use the structure and continue to
use it as a ski team. He asked if a public hearing is needed for the new building.
The Committee of the Whole agreed that a public hearing is not needed. The project
timeline for the building is bidding it out in June with construction this coming fall.
Alderman Borgman – also questioned the use of the areas located in the building,
similar to Alderman Schroeder.
Alderman Patterson – suggested the new building could be used for storage in the
off-season to benefit park and recreation programs. If this is the case is should be
clarified from the beginning.
Communications and Miscellaneous Business as Authorized by Law – none.
Adjournment – Motion by Alderman Buckmaster, second by Alderman Borgman to adjourn at
10:22 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Janice Moyer, CMC, CMTW
Clerk-Treasurer
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