COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - MINUTES - 3/11/2004
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE – CITY OF MUSKEGO Approved
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD MARCH 11, 2004 5/13/2004
Mayor Slocomb called the meeting to order at 7:06 PM. Also present were Aldermen
Petfalski, Patterson, Buckmaster, Damaske, and Schroeder, Finance Director
Gunderson and Clerk-Treasurer Marenda. Ald. Madden and Ald. Salentine were
absent.
Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance. The Clerk-Treasurer stated the
meeting was noticed in accordance with the open meeting law, and read the Notice of
Closed Session.
Ald. Petfalski moved for approval of minutes of meeting held February 12, 2004. Ald.
Buckmaster seconded; motion carried.
TEEN ADVISORY BOARD
Appointment and Swearing in of Second Alternate Members
Ald. Schroeder reported last month five potential TAB members were interviewed, with
two selected as regular members and three as alternate members. Two additional
students are interested, and he recommended they be selected to serve as Second
Alternate Members. Candidates Ryan Kowalski and Erica Koss told a little about
themselves. Ald Schroeder moved to add Ryan and Erica as Second Alternates to the
Teen Advisory Board. Ald. Petfalski seconded; motion carried. The Clerk-Treasurer
gave the Oath of Office to the new members and presented a Certificate of Appointment
to each.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Continue Discussion of Future Goals of the Council
This item was put on hold until the May COW meeting.
Discuss Status of Old Muskego Settlement Centre (Lease)
The current lease with the Historical Society does not reflect the Old Town Hall moved
to this site from Pioneer Dr. Mayor indicated there are other things that need to be
updated in the lease as a housekeeping matter. Ald. Petfalski suggested a decision be
made on what direction will be taken with the building before finalizing the lease. Mayor
advised a Facilities Agreement was tabled and no agreement entered with the Historical
Society as the building will be under the control of Parks and Recreation. Ald. Damaske
expressed the concern if the Society is taking care of the buildings identified in the
lease. He suggested a target date to complete the lease. The lease should exclude the
Old Town Hall and the parking lot. Mayor will work on the lease with a target date for
completion in June 2004.
Discuss Status of Old Muskego Settlement Centre (Renovation)
Ald. Buckmaster noted Parks and Recreation can’t use the building yet, and asked what
options are available for the renovation. Mayor explained the alternatives presented to
the Aldermen previously by Sean McMullen. At budget time it was decided not to spend
the money at this time. Ald. Buckmaster said the Parks and Recreation Board had
expressed a concern about having more space for programs and they were given the
usage control of the Old Town Hall, but they can’t occupy it. They would like to use it
for recreation programs. Ald. Patterson asked if Park Dedication funds could be used.
Finance Director Gunderson cautioned that those funds can only be used for capital
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improvements on parkland, and she was unsure if the center is classified as a park.
Ald. Buckmaster stated he had asked the Board for a priority list for expenditure of park
dedication funds and will ask if they are interested in spending funds so they can use
the Old Town Hall. Ald. Petfalski suggested a review of the Parks and Open Space
Plan. Ald. Damaske felt there was some obligation to make the building usable rather
than have the Board be responsible for it all. Ald. Buckmaster will follow up with the
Parks and Recreation Director and the Board at their next meeting to determine their
interest. Ms. Gunderson said one of the programs the Parks and Recreation Director
has indicated would benefit from the use of the Old Town Hall is the summer
playground program located at Veterans Memorial Park.
Continued Discussion on Durham Drive – McShane to 00
Mayor reported still waiting for the status of grant funding.
Review and Consider for Recommendation 2004-2008 Capital Plan
Ald. Buckmaster asked if the Old Town Hall renovation should be added. Mayor said
when the report is received from the Parks and Recreation Board we can look at it.
Ms. Gunderson said at the last meeting the discussion left off after the Fire
Departments. Discussion continued with additional explanations provided by Ms.
Gunderson on questions relating to the Fire Department.
Ald. Patterson asked if the $400,000 for Decorative Street Lighting/Tess Corners under
the DPW category could be split over two years and/or use some of the money from the
decorative pavement project (included under Parks and Rec – Janesville Recreation
Trail-$289,425). Ald. Buckmaster said he looked at the Tess Corners Historical District
on Janesville Rd. and the proposed crosswalk stamping. Recreational trails will now
access the area, Durham will end in a cul de sac, and the HC-1 zoning for Bushy’s has
been done. He is concerned about pedestrian traffic in the area. Having the stamped
concrete there gives a false security for crossing. If the intent of the District is to have
an area where people can walk, where do they cross? The stamped concrete emulates
a crosswalk. He would not have a problem not having the stamped concrete on either
the Tess Corners or Durham areas, but have the lights define the area as a Historic
District. Ald. Petfalski would like to keep the stamped concrete at Tess Corners, but
could give up the one at Durham. Mayor will check if a change order can be approved
as this was already bid. He will inform the aldermen.
Ms. Gunderson continued with the Capital Plan for Parks and Recreation, noting the
changes as shown on the handout. Ms. Gunderson stated the original budget was
$289,000 for the Janesville Recreation Trail. But now the County is paying for portion
with existing sidewalks and developers are paying for a portion. There was no money
originally budgeted for the Tess Corners historic district decorative stamping. She
noted money for the Janesville Recreation Trail line item has already been borrowed
and can fund both the trail and the stamping. The rec trail is now estimated at
$100,000. Ald. Buckmaster asked for the balance in the parks dedication account. Ms.
Gunderson noted it was projected at budget time to be $332,000 at the end of 2004, but
believe it has been noted by the Parks and Rec Board that this money is available for
development of Park Arthur and acquisitions. Ald. Buckmaster requested the balance
available in Parks Dedication for each year in the capital plan. Ms. Gunderson noted
the items in the Capital Plan do not include costs to be paid by Park Dedication Fund.
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Those items are taken care of in the Park Dedication Special Revenue Fund. Ald.
Buckmaster will contact Ms. Gunderson if more information is desired. Ald. Petfalski
asked if the new Park Dedication and Conservation fees have been implemented. Ms.
Marenda advised the public hearing would be held at the March 23rd Council meeting
and the ordinance on the fees would be introduced at that meeting. Timing for the
implementation of the fees needs to be discussed regarding preliminary submittals that
have already been made. Ald. Petfalski felt the fees should be implemented
immediately upon adoption of the ordinance. Ms. Marenda was requested to obtain a
legal opinion.
Ald. Buckmaster requested the Idle Isle remodeling scheduled for 2007 be moved to an
earlier date and is discussing with the Parks and Recreation Board. Ms. Gunderson
continued review of the Parks and Recreation schedule and noted changes as
distributed.
No adjustments were noted at staff level to the Storm Water Management Fund and it
stands as presented.
Ms. Gunderson said in summary since the plan was reviewed in the fall, $296,289 has
been moved out of 2005 to future years. The biggest reductions were made in the road
program, which affects the operating budget. Mayor advised the projected numbers
would be reviewed to make sure the decrease wouldn’t result in a decrease of our
highway aids.
Ald. Buckmaster questioned the status of the Phase II Durham project. Mayor noted we
are trying to get a 90/10 grant. We’ll move the project out if funding is not available as
there may be the possibility the grants may be used for the Marquette project in
Milwaukee.
Ms. Gunderson noted the capital plan is made up of projects supported by funding
through the operating budget, debt borrowing, landfill, or some other resource such as
grants.
Mayor said we’d need to look to see how this plan fits in with our ability to pay at budget
time. Mayor noted landfill revenues are way down so far this year. Ms. Gunderson
noted this plan is a planning tool and will need to be adopted. He noted the May
Committee of the Whole meeting typically discusses budget goals. The Department
Heads would like to have that clarity early so they know what the limitations may be
when putting together their budgets.
Ald. Schroeder said he had two strong feelings on the proposed plan. One on the 2005
Police Department 9-1-1 Hardware for $120,000, and Fire Department TC 9-1-1
Dispatch Center Upgrade for $60,000. He suggested a hard look be taken to see if
possible to push out, in order to see if Waukesha Consolidated Dispatch is an option for
us. He expressed he is fully in favor of the lighting in the Tess Corners area, but we
may want to look at just one intersection for the pavement stamping and coloring, or no
intersections. Definitely not interested in both intersections. The savings for the
stamping could be used for the lighting, which is more important than stamping to
identify that area.
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Ald. Damaske asked about adding funding for the Old Town Hall project. Ms.
Gunderson said she would find out the dollar amount from Sean McMullen, and would
add the amount to 2005. Ald. Petfalski said he has no issue with putting it in 2005 if the
Parks and Recreation Board agrees to pull it out of Park Dedication fees. He stated he
does have an issue of levying for it and raising taxes to do it.
Ald. Buckmaster expressed some concerns. First, the Phase II Durham project to be
sure if grant funds are diverted the project is pushed off. Mayor said if the grant funds
are not approved the project will be delayed until grant funds are approved. Ald.
Damaske suggested the legislators be lobbied for the funds. Second, referred to the
Fire Departments – MVFC vehicle for $354,000 for 2005 and two vehicles in 2006, one
MVFC and one TC, and would definitely like to look why we need both in one year. Ald.
Patterson said let’s look at MVFC and TC doing four vehicles in three-year period and
how we can move it around. Ald. Buckmaster said at the last budget session we kept
having MVFC come back, and would like only one presentation, and would like the
Mayor’s office to put together something on if there is seriously a need, not just a want.
In absence of a citywide fire chief between two independent fire departments, the Mayor
is the best person to discuss the requests with the departments before coming to the
Committee of the Whole, and made a part of the administrative recommendation on the
budget. Ald. Damaske thought if there wasn’t agreement after the fire departments
made their presentation, he would like them to come back with the additional
information requested. Ms. Gunderson said typically on every item that comes forward
on Capital, the department makes their presentation and it’s not filtered by
administration. Previously the departments presented to the Capital Budget Committee,
and they made a recommendation to Council, and it was either accepted or rejected at
that time.
Ald. Schroeder said maybe some thought could go into the idea of a joint capital plan
between the two fire departments.
Since there will be no COW in April, the plan will go back on the agenda in May. Mayor
said it would depend on what can be done internally to make the recommended
changes and determine the impact. However, to give the department heads the list of
items that the Council approves for 2005, the plan will have to be adopted. If they come
up with another ‘need’, they can move one or more of their items to the future, or trade
with another department. Ms. Gunderson said if the intent is not to borrow any money
in 2005, we need to know that early on. In May, the department heads need the
direction on the limits on their budget requests.
Update on Proposed Development at Valley Sand & Gravel Site
Ald. Petfalski reported the City of New Berlin Plan Commission passed a resolution
without multi-family for this area. The developer is submitting responses to their many
concerns and the Council will continue review and send to their CDA. Today staff
looked at sewer and water capacity and planning. The staff and R & M will meet again
in about three weeks. If the New Berlin Council turns it down, we’ll only be doing our
own planning for that area.
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Tess Corners Historical District: Pedestrian and Vehicle Traffic Options. General
Discussion on Project Philosophy, Planning and Progress.
Ald. Buckmaster said he touched on it during discussion of the Capital Plan. His
concern was that as Janesville Rd. gets done there are committees that will need to
look at the speed limit on Durham, and as businesses filter in on Janesville Rd. look at a
recommendation to the County about the speed limit in the historical district. If the
philosophy is going to be that we want people to walk around, then a 35 mph road with
almost 1 mile between controlled intersections is rather tough to get people across. Ald.
Schroeder added his surprise that the stretch of Janesville from Bay Lane to Princeton
continues to stay at 45 mph. The traffic count is going up, and it would help the 35 mph
limit in the Tess Corners area for traffic not to be coming out of a 45 mph limit when
traveling east. A consistent speed is needed between Hales Corners and District 5.
Ald. Patterson reported the County did a traffic study on Janesville west of Moorland
and lowered the speed to 45 mph and the rule of 85% is about 51 mph. Lowering to 35
mph was not warranted by the study done by the County about a month ago. They will
do a more extensive study in the spring. Ald. Buckmaster felt strongly the speed limit
should be reduced to 35 mph along the current 45 mph stretch of Janesville Rd. Mayor
noted the City cannot control the speed on a County road. Ald. Schroeder noted there
has been some discussion of a controlled intersection at Martin and the expense of that
as opposed to a possible speed reduction which may assist people making left turns,
wouldn’t make sense if new speed signage would do the trick. Ald. Buckmaster said if
the Council would approve a recommendation to reduce the speed, he would present it
to the appropriate County committee. Ald. Schroeder said he would agree to bring it to
the Common Council through committee.
Moorland Corridor – Discuss Alternative Options to RSA Zoning
Ald. Buckmaster said he is looking for options for the RSA zoning, specifically on the
east side of Moorland. His impression from the public hearing is that multi-family is
opposed by many people. Mayor Slocomb disagreed. RSA includes two-family, which
is not considered multi-family by the State. The condominiums south of Janesville do
not fit the historical definition of multi-family. Ald. Buckmaster said that doesn’t mean it
may be more appealing to Muskego. Ald. Petfalski and Mayor strongly disagreed. Ald.
Buckmaster said his main concern is he doesn’t understand why we have to put RSA on
either side as a buffer. We already have ten single family units on the east side and
then 29 RSA. Why don’t we keep it all single family with OPD? It’s clearly the buffer
that surrounding properties want. Don’t think there should be any RSA and multi-family
in this area. He asked Jeff Muenkel how much RSA and multi family have come up
since 2000, and is waiting for that report. Mayor advised good planning suggests you
have transition areas. Ald. Petfalski agrees we need transition. Maybe some type of
zoning that allows two-family attached. If not, is there a legal way of keeping from the
residential component before the business gets developed to avoid the residential
complaints? Mayor thought it could be done only if done by one developer, otherwise
probably not. Ald. Buckmaster asked if there is anything else besides RSA as a
transition like a PUD. We have too much multi-family and RSA in this area. Ald.
Patterson agreed with transitional type zoning. People are confused with RSA and
RSM zoning. What is the worst-case scenario with RSA zoning? Why can’t you add
more residential and less RSA?
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Review of City Committees
Mayor Slocomb presented the current list of Boards, Commissions and Committees.
Ald. Schroeder asked if one is to be eliminated, it could be Public Services Committee.
Ald. Buckmaster moved to disband the committee effective with the new Council, with
issues to be divided between Public Works and Finance Committees. . Ald. Petfalski
seconded. Ald. Schroeder commented this has no reflection on the services of Ald.
Patterson as Chairman of the committee. Motion carried 4-1, with Ald. Patterson voting
rd
“no”. An ordinance will be introduced at the March 23 Council meeting on the change
of the committee structure.
Ald. Petfalski moved to convene into closed session pursuant to 19.85 (1) (c) Wis.
Stats., Considering employment, promotion, compensation or performance evaluation
data of any public employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or
exercises responsibility, more specifically filling the Community Development Director
position. Action may be taken in closed session. The Committee of the Whole will then
reconvene into open session to continue with agenda items. Ald. Patterson seconded;
motion carried 5-0. Ms. Gunderson was present for the closed session, and Ms.
Marenda was excused.
Ald. Damaske moved to reconvene into Open Session. Ald. Petfalski seconded; motion
carried 5-0.
Ald. Petfalski moved to adjourn. Ald. Damaske seconded; motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Jean K. Marenda, CMC
Clerk-Treasurer