COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - MINUTES - 1/12/2000
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - CITY OF MUSKEGO Approved 3/2/2000
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD JANUARY 12, 2000
Mayor De Angelis called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. Also present were Aldermen
Slocomb, Le Doux, Patterson, Pionek, Salentine and Sanders. Ald. Chiaverotti was excused.
Director of Planning Brian Turk and Clerk-Treasurer Marenda were also present.
Mayor De Angelis stated the meeting was noticed in accordance with the Open Meeting Law.
Ald. Patterson moved to approve minutes of the 11/4/99 meeting. Ald. Salentine seconded;
motion carried.
Further review of criteria for land division on lakefront properties
Mr. Turk presented a timetable (attached) regarding the two-year window for the phase-out of
legal lot status. There are 92 parcels, or 46 owners affected The area affected is
predominately around Little Muskego Lake, with a few on Bass Bay and Lake Denoon.
Another issue is the matter of fees. Current application fee for legal lot status is $115.00. Ald.
Patterson moved to proceed according to the timeline as presented and waive the application
fee for the first six (6) months after the effective date of the ordinance. Ald. Salentine
seconded. Motion carried.
Discussion of Land Conservancy Program
Mr. Turk stated the RFP for a consultant should be ready to distribute by e-mail this Friday to
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be reviewed at the Finance Committee meeting on January 19. Place on next COW agenda.
Continued discussion land/location for Community Center
Mr. Turk advised he received a letter from the Dept. of Agriculture stating they will not be doing
an Agricultural Impact Statement for the Carity property. The Mayor stated he will meet with
Mr. Carity next week to present his rights letter and other documents. He also thought the
Boehms might be ready to discuss this matter with him by the end of next week. Mr. Turk
indicated he had not heard from the Dept. of Agriculture regarding the Boehm property. Place
on next COW agenda.
Continued discussion on downtown area development
Ald. Pionek asked how the Comp Plan meetings are going. Mr. Turk advised they hadn’t met
since the last update to Committee of the Whole. Place on next COW agenda.
Reconsideration of Parkland Mall - TIF issue
Mayor reported there is nothing new. Faxed correspondence received from the property owner
asking for a meeting will be distributed tomorrow. Mayor stated his December letter to the
property owner had asked the property owner to contact Mr. Turk regarding downtown
development issues, since the Comp Plan Committee has discussed new design standards. It
also said that after reviewing the minutes and discussion with Mr. Turk, if he felt there was a
need for an additional meeting to go through the process if he had something to present, he
could ask that it be set up. Ald. Patterson asked if the Plan Commission had denied the TIF.
Mayor stated the Plan Commission denied the TIF, with the minutes indicating once there is a
more formalized plan it will be reviewed. In response to Ald. Patterson’s question if the
property owner could go directly back to the Plan Commission with a plan, the Mayor stated
right now there is a TIF Review Board out there, an approval by the Common Council to
proceed with the preliminary plan, and Plan Commission denial. He will first need the Plan
Commission approval, unless the plan is different than the previous submittal to the Council -
such as a change of boundaries and a different use than commercial as originally proposed.
Ald. Salentine asked if the City still follows the rules that if there are outstanding citation,
permits can’t be acquired until those have been resolved? Mayor stated the rule of no building
permits to violators is still in effect. Place on next COW agenda.
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Discuss Make Up of Plan Commission Members
Mayor advised that because of action taken through the state budget process, the required
make-up of Plan Commission membership was changed. Municipal ordinance can establish
membership as long as there are seven members and a minimum of three citizens on the
commission. No longer required to have an alderman, Parks representative and City Engineer,
and the body may elect its own chairman, not necessarily the Mayor. Committee felt it
important to have Mayor, Alderman, City Engineer and Parks representative on commission.
Mayor noted current membership includes four citizens-at-large, Parks and Rec Board
president, Alderman and Mayor. He noted one of the citizen members was appointed due to
having no City Engineer on staff. He will have an ordinance to amend the current code
prepared and brought to Council for approval.
Review status of City Engineer position
Mayor reported he talked to the current headhunter today. Right now he doesn’t have
anybody except for the couple people already looked at. Mayor said he is accepting proposals
from other agencies, which should be ready for the next Finance Committee meeting. He
advised he did a re-review of a previous applicant, and will review it with the committee. Place
on next COW agenda.
Review Fire Prevention Code
No new information to report. Place on next COW agenda.
Discuss status of Old Muskego Settlement Centre
Ald. Pionek reported he and Craig Anderson are trying to meet with a gentleman from Old
World Wisconsin. He has indicated he will be happy to work with them on the plan. The
$14,000 CDBG funds can be carried over according to Craig’s discussion with the County.
Once the plans are developed we can apply again for another grant. The grant is only for
handicap facilities. Place on next COW agenda.
Discuss status of Linnie Lac dam
Mayor reported the dam is almost completed. Dredging will proceed. They have not contacted
us to put spoils at Park Arthur. City had asked for $4,000. Place on next COW agenda.
Discuss status of City Hall remodeling project
Mayor advised still on schedule. Met with architect who is preparing final drawings to go for
bid. Some minor changes were made. There is a new cost estimate based on the plans. An
asbestos test showed asbestos in the floor tile and joint compound in drywall, which requires
asbestos abatement through the demolition. Did have to make ADA accommodations in the
upstairs restrooms and they now estimate an additional $100,000 due to some of the changes.
However, may save in other areas - such as the electrical system not required to be upgraded.
Ald. Sanders requested new signs at the entrances on Pioneer and Racine - similar to the
ground monument for the new Library. Mayor responded he would look into it. Hopefully
funds will be left over from the Library project. Ald. Slocomb requested a set a plans be
submitted to all the aldermen which includes both the furniture layout and dimensions for
review prior to final plans for bid. They was some concern about the size and configuration of
the aldermen’s room to provide enough table space to lay out plans and drawings, have
enough room for the committee and the audience. Also requested that one wall be cork or
magnetic for hanging plans, maps, etc. Ald. Slocomb also requested comfortable furniture for
the citizens be purchased for the Council Chambers. Mayor noted the Council Chambers
would have new lighting, carpeting and chairs, raised platform for Council, plugs ins for
eventual laptops, voting board in view of aldermen and cable cameras mounted on columns.
Place on next COW agenda.
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Continued discussion regarding stormwater funding/ponds
Ald. Pionek noted one of the things the Mayor was to do was to line up a meeting with all
affected property owners. Mayor advised that hasn’t been done yet. Ald. Slocomb felt there is
a potential with Candlewood Creek and asked that someone coordinates this. Ald. Pionek
noted it showed why a full time City Engineer is needed. Mayor advised he will try to get a
meeting set up by end of this month. Mayor advised there is money budgeted to do new
profiles due to sedimentation and look at possible expense of Tess Corners Drainage Pond.
Ald. Slocomb said a timeline should be prepared for the project. Land acquisition will be
required since more storage area is needed. Clean up will help. Place on next COW agenda.
Discuss Business Park Location
The Comp Plan committee minutes indicate they may want Moorland Road extended to be
four-lanes, 100 ft. right of way under local control. Mayor asked Ald. Sanders what’s the
rational of local jurisdiction without trucking to support a business park? If access to I-94 is
through that road the majority of traffic to the business park would be truck traffic. Ald.
Slocomb questioned what the proposed land use is at Moorland and College and Ald. Sanders
responded office/commercial/retail. Ald. Slocomb also asked if the committee members
looked at the area west of the landfill on Hwy. 45 as a business park. Ald. Sanders said that
area on 45 would be more of an industrial park, not a business park. Ald. Slocomb agreed it
would have to be a heavy-use park in that area. Mayor noted it is too far removed from the
interstate to get the type of development you’d want in a business park. Ald. Sanders
commented he wondered why Franklin and New Berlin taxes are high with their industrial parks
in place. Mayor noted for example the tax rate for the Franklin/Franklin school district is about
$30.00, and for the Franklin/Oak Creek school district it’s about $22.00, and that is why
Franklin is trying to promote that type of development on the west portion of the City. As for
New Berlin, they have high expenses, such as about three times the staff in their municipal
government and more schools than Muskego, and their tax rate is not significantly higher than
ours. Ald. Slocomb felt a mix of development is needed in the community. Our industrial and
commercial development is low. He suggested that the Comp Plan committee finish their
task, and asked the aldermen to review what they are doing and provide input to Ald. Sanders.
Place on next COW agenda.
Discuss paving of private roads and driveways
Ald Pionek stated the question was, do we pave private driveways for people? He commented
about a private driveway that was done. Ald. Slocomb thought the answer was anyone is
eligible to have that done if they are paving in the area, with payment up front. Mayor noted
that citizens normally contact the contractors on site and ask them to do their drive with
payment directly to the contractor. Mayor said the Public Works Committee should review and
develop a policy, after obtaining concurrence by the contractor. There could be many people
wishing to take advantage of such a program. Ald. Patterson suggested if procedure is
developed it should include pre-payment directly to contractor. Mayor said he will check into it
to see if it can be done. This matter will be placed on the next Public Works agenda.
Consider Establishment of Policies and Procedures
Ald. Pionek stated he had asked that each department document their policies. Mayor stated
the project was started with his last intern, since someone needs to facilitate and put it
together. He said he is currently interviewing to fill the vacant intern position. Ald. Pionek
noted a couple things come up each week that are “policy” but nothing is written. Mayor stated
the initial set up of the framework of the policies is necessary so everyone puts theirs together
in the same format, and can be done by the new intern when time permits. Ald. Slocomb felt
the departments could start collecting items before the formatting. Mayor said the department
heads will be asked to create a list of policies, and the Committee of the Whole can prioritize
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and categorize. Ald. Slocomb felt that what they think important shouldn’t be criteria. Place on
next COW agenda.
Further discussion on Weights and Measures licensing
Information not yet available. Place on next COW agenda.
Discuss Term of Tess Corners Fire Department Contract
Mayor reported he was contacted by TCVFD asking if the City would be willing to have five (5)
year contracts with the department for fire service. Only thing to change annually would be the
dollar amount. They are getting prepared to sign for 2000, and asked if the City would
entertain changing the contract for 2000, or possibly changing in 2001. Ald. Slocomb noted
most everything is done on an annual contract basis, except BFI which is for 10 years with
options of set percentage increase in price. That was done as there were benefits with a long-
term contract due to protections to the City, citizens and BFI. If you can’t talk price and narrow
that down, he didn’t know what the benefit would be. Ald. Patterson noted we do have a five
(5) year contract with TCVFD for rescue service. Also, we want the departments to try to
standardize their budgeting formats, and to get capital and O & M consistent in both
departments. He suggested it be looked at in 2001, after budget formats are standardized and
the benefit to the City is established. Mayor agreed it would be reasonable to say we’ll look at
it for 2001.
Discuss Charging Fees for Fire Calls
Ald. Patterson suggested if we’re going to start talking salaries, there might be a portion of fire
calls which could be covered under homeowners insurance. Ald. Le Doux posed some
examples of when he felt this would not be appropriate - child pulling fire alarm, calls to
schools, etc. Ald. Patterson said he was mainly looking at what areas would be covered under
peoples’ insurance policies. Mayor asked Ald. Patterson to talk to some insurance agents to
get an answer to bring back to committee. Clerk-Treas. Marenda stated she would e-mail the
municipal clerks on the network to see if anyone charges for fire calls. Please on next COW
agenda.
Discuss scheduling future meeting dates for Committee of the Whole
Committee determined regular meetings would be scheduled the first Thursday of the month
starting March 2, 2000, with no meeting in February.
Adjournment
Ald. Patterson moved to adjourn at 9:58 p.m. Ald. Sanders seconded; motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Jean K. Marenda, CMC
Clerk-Treasurer
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