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BIG MUSKEGO LAKE/BASS BAY PROTECTION & REHABILITATION DISTRICT
MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING HELD MONDAY, OCTOBER 30, 1995
The meeting was called to order at 7:09 P.M. by Chairman De
Angelis. Also present were Commissioners Rasmussen, Salentine
and Sanders. Deputy Commissioners Leonard Pilak, Larry
Schweitzer, Ed Herda and Sue Sorenson were also present.
The Secretary reported that the meeting was noticed on Friday,
November 20, 1995, in accordance with the Open Meeting Law.
Commissioner Salentine moved to approve the minutes of the
September 8, 1995, Special Meeting. Seconded by Commissioners
Sanders, motion carried.
Chairman De Angelis stated that there was no unfinished
business, and announced that the new business item to be
discussed was the Creation of Islands and Deep Pools.
Deputy Commissioner Leonard Pilak advised that the Deputy
Commissioners have been approached by the Army Corps of
Engineers and Ducks Unlimited for the purpose of their creating
islands out on Big Muskego Lake, out of the dredgings on the
bottom of Big Muskego Lake, which would provide habitat for
ducks and deeper water for fish. They are proposing to start
with four (4) to six (6) islands to see how they work. The
funding has been tentatively agreed upon which will be one
hundred percent funded by duck stamp revenue and Ducks
Unlimited; with no cost to the District. Locations and
timetables of the construction are yet to be announced. Ducks
Unlimited and Army Corps of Engineers need to know that the Big
Muskego Lake District is behind this project before they will
commit to anything. With this in mind, the Deputy
Commissioners arranged for an informational meeting to be held
at the High School on October 18, 1995, which was attended by
approximately 20 people. Most of the people there were very
interested and asked the Deputy Commissioners to proceed
forward which resulted in scheduling this meeting.
Deputy Commissioner then opened the floor up to any questions
advising that Jim Jackley, DNR representative, was also in
attendance and available for questions.
Mr. Sam Klauser, S80 W14401 Schultz Lane, asked if all the
property owners could be assured that there will be absolutely
no cost to them, and that if in the event the project is
started and them stopped for lack of sufficient funding, that
this will not be assessed to the property owners. Deputy
Commissioner Pilak stated that the Deputy Commissioners have
agreed that the project will not be started unless they have a
guarantee of one hundred percent funding. There will be no
cost to the property owners for construction of the islands.
Deputy Commissioners again stated that they are proposing four
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to six islands with one hundred percent financing and if one
hundred financing is not received, there will not be a project.
Mr. Klauser finished by stating that the Lake definitely needs
some improvement and he will assist in anyway that he can, but
when projects like these start interfering with the property
owners tax structure, he objects.
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Mr. Keith Jahns, S94 W14542 Groveway Lane, questioned whether
after the project has been completed, there would be any future
maintenance costs? Deputy Commissioner Pilak advised that
there will also be maintenance of the Lake and its projects in
and around the Lake, such as maintenance of the boat islands,
etc. These islands will also, in the future, require some
maintenance. He stated that the lifetime of these islands is
estimated at around 50 years. The Deputy Commissioners are
exploring ways to fund maintenance, when needed for these
islands in the future. Selling the namesake of these islands
is one way of raising some money, much like they are selling
the namesake for the County Stadium. Deputy Commissioner Pilak
went on to state that there are many companies in the State of
Wisconsin that contribute to State public hunting grounds and
preserves. He stated that a list has been furnished by the DNR
of companies that donate dollars for the namesake of an
island. Deputy Commissioner Pilak advised that he had recently
appeared at a Muskego Chamber of Commerce meeting where there
appeared to be some interest from local companies to finance
such an idea. That might help to defray costs for future
management of these islands.
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Chairman De Angelis clarified a concern stated by Mr. Klauser
as to the public boat launch and overflow parking. He stated
that the City's Grant Administrator has been going to certain
property owners in the District asking if they would be
interested in participating in a program of having their launch
available for public use. That idea came forward at a previous
meeting on September 8, 1995, where there was interest shown in
having some of the private facilities utilized for public
launching. The City has available land; enough to fulfill the
minimum parking requirement for the DNR. The City is pursuing
the availability of outside areas at the request of the
District to look at some alternatives, but if those
alternatives do not pan out, the City has enough property
available today to build those parking stalls that we need to
meet the minimum requirement and to guarantee that we will be
able to continue to fund this project and future projects.
Chairman De Angelis also stated that the District mayor may
not recall that part of the funding requirement of the DNR for
lake projects is that there is adequate public access. That is
why the City is building the boat launch and also looking for
overflow parking to meet it's minimum requirements. Whether
those requirements are met through private individuals or
provided by the City, one way or another that requirement will
be met so that the DNR will continue its funding. He mentioned
that it also should be noted that the ramp will be owned by the
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City of Muskego and be part of the Parks system and the upkeep
and maintenance will not be an expense to the District.
Mrs. Collette Klenz, W166 88282 Kurtze Lane, asked how the
costs of the islands was determined and if there is a cost
overrun, who would pay for the overrun? Deputy Commissioner
Pilak explained that the Army Corps of Engineers have done
extensive testing in the area and they have done this type of
project nationwide. As far as the overruns, Deputy
Commissioner Pilak stated that this project will be publicly bid and that once the bids have been received, and the monies
are committed for awarding the bid, the Contractor is
responsible for fulfilling the entire contract at the agreed
upon contract amount.
Mr. Donald Dougherty, W140 89319 Boxhorn Drive, appeared before
the Committee to state that he has been here since 1949 and
feels that he would like to see ten or twelve islands instead
of just four or six. Deputy Commissioner Pilak answered by
stating that originally the DNR had requested that Ducks
Unlimited do ten or twelve islands, but some of the District
members did not feel comfortable in going to ten or twelve and
preferred to do four or six to see how they would work, and
possibly in the future add more.
Mrs. Klenz also questioned the composition of the islands and
the placement. Deputy Commissioner Pilak stated that the
placement would depend on how many islands we will be
building. At the present time the exact location is not
known. Mrs. Klenz voiced concern over one being placed on a
property where a property owner was not receptive to it being
in front of their home. Deputy Commissioner stated that when
the number is finally determined, there will be another meeting
called of the District to discuss final placement of the
islands. Deputy Commissioner stated that the composition of
the island will be basically the dredgings of the lake bottom
and suggested that Mr. Jim Jackley, DNR representative, expand
on this question.
Mr. Jim Jackley explained that after the water has been drawn
down and it is frozen, they would stake and probe out clay
deposits; probably around the outside perimeters, possibly one
per section. They would be one-quarter mile out into the
Lake. They can be constructed anywhere as long as they are
one-quarter mile out in the Lake and in two to three feet of
water. Ducks Unlimited is giving the Department of Natural
Resources the money which the DNR will match with 8tate
dollars. The DNR will be responsible and will be bidding out
the project as is required for any project over $5,000. The
DNR requested $195,000 for twelve islands and $15,000 for
pumping. Ducks Unlimited have stated that they do not have
that much money now and are waiting to see what funds are
available at the end of the fiscal year as they try to use up
the entire amount of money at the end of each year for
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Grunewald, Ducks Unlimited Habitat Coordinator out of Madison,
and he stated that for the most part Ducks Unlimited is
committed to $65,500. Duck Stamp dollars will match that 50%
so it is another $65,500; so it is $131,000 for four to six
islands. If Ducks Unlimited funding is not received, the DNR
will not do the island project.
Mr. Jackley stated that composition is ideally a minimum of 30%
clay mixed with larger aggregate for stability. It is topped
with six inches of top soil and basically the top soil would be
the soft sediment that is out there now.
Mrs. Klenz also questioned if private landowners could deposit
their spoils on the island. Mr. Jackley stated that he had
checked into that after being questioned at a past meeting and
has discovered that it cannot be done. Even for the public
access channel, none of the material taken out can be put on
the island. No dredge spoils can be used that have been taken
out of the Lake.
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Ms. Gregoria Suchy, owner of property addressed W143 S8032
Schultz Lane, questioned how deep would the shallow part of the
lake be after installation of deep pools? Mr. Jackley
explained that there would be, with four to six islands, around
nine acres of deep pools. The rest of the lake will be
basically the way it is now; potentially slightly deeper from
the compaction and it will be very good fishing. The main
emphasis of the islands are for waterfowl nesting, shore bird
use, etc.; the deep pools are created to make the islands and
will create good summer fishing and diversity for fish, but it is specifically for the wildlife.
Mr. John Wiederhold, S94 Wl4452 Groveway Lane, questioned what
the island will look like on top; will it be left to grow
natural, etc. Mr. Jackley replied that it would be up to the
District to determine how they would like it. There are two
vegetation types that are recommended; he, personally, would
like to do two or three of each to see which ones work better.
One is native grass (prairie grass) on top and the sides would
probably be bullrush (pencile grass) and cattails to a certain
extent. The other option is low shrubs. It has been found
that shrubby islands help protect the nests of the gulls and
provide great nesting for other wildlife. The low shrub option
would be taller than the native grass option.
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Mrs. Loreen Klauser, S80 W14401 Schultz Lane, questioned that if this project were to go ahead would it prolong the drawdown
or will it be done on time to keep the drawdown on schedule?
Mr. Jackley responded that the project would be constructed
during January and February when the ground is frozen and
completed by Spring of 1996.
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,- A resident questioned if it is the intention of the DNR to turn this into another Sheboygan or Horicon Marsh. Mr. Jackley
responded that the intent is to restore Big Muskego Lake to
what it was in the 1930's and 1940's, before contamination.
Mr. Eugene Godleski, W136 S8368 Holz Drive, questioned what
would be used to stabilize the boat launch. Mr. Jackley stated
that with the drawdown next Summer, the floating bogs that are
out there now should route to the ground and become more
stable. Also, it is permitted to slide slope the access
channels.
Deputy Commissioner Ed Herda, questioned who would be managing
this project. Mr. Jackley was not positive, but felt that it would probably be John Panuska, the DNR Lakes Engineer out of
Madison, or Mr. Tim Grunewald out of Madison; but it will be a
DNR project.
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Gary Stewart, W136 S8415 Holz Drive, questioned how the duck
stamp monies were managed and, on the east side of the Lake, he
stated they have winter problems with large ice erosion and
wondered how this will be prevented on the proposed islands.
Mr. Jackley responded that the duck stamp dollars are handled
through Madison and he wasn't sure the exact protocol, but he
knows that it goes through quite an extensive approval process
for what the funds will be used for. Mr. Jackley also stated
that icing is a strong force and that it would be best to have
the islands more on the western side to reduce the wind and the
ice, but that is, again, up to the Lake District.
As there were no further questions, Deputy Commissioner Pilak
turned the project over to Chairman De Angelis who advised that
a motion from the floor was needed on what type of action was
wished to be taken. Mr. Donald Dougherty moved to construct
six or ten islands along with the creation of the deep pools.
Seconded by Mr. Leonard Becker, S94 W14470 Groveway Lane. Mr.
Keith Jahns moved to amend the motion to state that we construct
four to ten islands along with the creation of deep pools and
the the creation of the islands and deep pools will have no
additional cost to the Lake District. Seconded by Deputy
Commissioner Leonard Pilak. A hand-vote indicated that the
majority were in favor (approximately 65) with three voting in
opposition. Amended motion, by ballot, carried with 52 "yes"
votes and 16 "no" votes.
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Deputy Commissioner reminded all District members that the
Deputy Commissioners meet on the first Wednesday of every
month, at City Hall, at 6:30 P.M. and urged that any and all
attend these meetings to give their input and have their
concerns addressed. He also wanted to advise that you can
crush, run over, cut and do anything that you can to control
cattails; you just cannot touch the roots by digging them out.
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Commissioner Rasmussen voiced concerns from his constituents on
Holz Drive as to their canal and the creek on the southeast
side of the lake as far as the dredging and where the spoils
will go. The figures that he received from his constituents,
for example for the canal on Holz Drive, if they can put the
material on the banks, it would be approximately $7,000 for
dredging and if they have to haul them out, it could run up to
$40,000 to $50,000. The Army Corps of Engineers and Liesa
Nesta (DNR) have been questioned, but they have indicated that
all spoils removed must be hauled away and may not be put back
on the bank. Commissioners Rasmussen would like to find some
relief for his constituents.
Mayor De Angelis responded that this issue has been addressed
many times in the past by other people besides the Big Muskego
Lake District, to no avail, as the DNR is very rigid in their
ruling on the spoils, but we will continue to look for other
remedies.
Mr. John Wiederhold moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:06 P.M.
Seconded by Mr. Sam Klauser, motion carried unanimously.
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Respectfully submitted,
~dÚ~ ~økflYV Cathie M. Anderson
Recording Secretary
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